Is a .32 good carry

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Experience tells me I'll never need to pull the trigger
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Still you carry Wild, why?

Perhaps you would care to regale us with just what this "experience" consists of?
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Tons of reading and listening to what experts say is needed to stop a determined threat. That includes a medical examiner (friend) who has looked from the inside at different bullet wounds, hospital workers who treat different bullet wounded patients, and bullet weights & velocities. All suggest that smaller caliber hits are not as incapacitating as larger caliber hits.

See David you prefer to play the odds and thats ok. Odds are you'll never even need a gun and even longer odds as Wild put it "never need to pull the trigger". I prefer to put every tool in my box that I can possibly fit before trouble hits no matter how much more rare the need be.

Let me ask you a direct question David. If you could only carry a handgun (since we can't conceal a rifle) & (a handgun that can be easily concealed) what caliber would it be if you knew a gun battle was coming and you couldn't avoid it? I know you won't answer the question because I've asked it of you many times without a direct answer. I know part of the answer anyway, it won't be a 22/25/32/380.

You prepare for a gun fight by carrying and training only to carry a caliber you would never choose when the awful time comes of ever really needing it. I refuse to do so. To each his own.

And please don't act as though you are the only one who studies this issue. You have a history of....looking down your nose posts...to many TFL members with whom you disagree.
 
Real-life street experience shows the .32 to be a poor defensive round. It just flat out doesn't do the job. I thought this was well-known.

A Skorpion maybe, but not a pistol. If I had to rely on a .32 I'd load it with ball ammo; in self-defense I'd empty the mag.

I know a guy who shot an assailant in the eye with a Seecamp; I don't know the specifics, but it didn't do much.
 
Not to disagree...

It is true if you look at the numbers the .32 is a pretty weak sister, but on an anecdotal basis it doesn't mean much. I know of two individuals who were shot very nicely with a good 9mm round and kept right on going (one in the forehead--he fell down, but got back up and staggered around).
And before all the .45 worshippers gloat too much...was it just last year that the guy in Texas went postal and shot his girlfriend 6 or 7 times with a Government model? They were good 185 grain JHP's, and good hits, and up until the last shot through the running lights she was still running around nicely...and she weighed less than 100 lbs.

Handgun rounds of all kinds do not provide reliable anything.

If you can't win the fight after shooting someone 5 times through the chest with a .32 then you will feel silly, but a lot less silly than the guy who beats his chest and carries a manly gun...except this one time because it is a pain in the ass and he left it at home and got his mail handed to him by some crack whore with a razor blade and-gosh-he-really-wished-he-had-brought-at-least-a-.22-because-boy-this-sucks-having-a-really-really-cool-gun-back-at-home-on-his-dresser-but-not-here-where-he-needs-it---ouch!
 
got his mail handed to him by some crack whore with a razor blade and-gosh-he-really-wished-he-had-brought-at-least-a-.22-because-boy-this-sucks-having-a-really-really-cool-gun-back-at-home-on-his-dresser-but-not-here-where-he-needs-it---ouch!
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Thats the perfect example you know why....
It illustrates that one must look for trouble.
Crack whores aren't running around the shopping malls with razor blades. :)
They are hanging around seedy areas. Why are YOU there.?

No one here says you SHOULDNT carry a bigger gun...I do at times. But, for the average experienced armed citizen living in a low crime area it is quite acceptable.
Its not Hobbesian out there, unless you live in Detroit or Wash DC

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I know a guy who shot an assailant in the eye with a Seecamp; I don't know the specifics, but it didn't do much.
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Definitely an angle issue. Even the puny 22/25 will easily penetrate enough to kill through the eye if the angle is correct.

I just helped a customer who was car jacked and shot. She took to rounds to the head from to different guns both sub calibers a 22 and a 25. One hit her right eye (now glass) and the other went into her skull causing a huge indention at the top of her head were the hairline starts (she forced me to feel the depression:eek:). She was indeed incapacitated immediately however after 3 brain surgery's she's fully recovered minus the eye.
 
Quote: "Thats the perfect example you know why....
It illustrates that one must look for trouble.
Crack whores aren't running around the shopping malls with razor blades.
They are hanging around seedy areas. Why are YOU there.?"


It depends upon the shopping mall... :)

Or, maybe "crack whore" is just my euphamism for "Ex-wife", hah! :D


You are absolutely right, of course. 90% of security for the average person is just staying away from trouble.

But, 10% of the trouble (as a wild guess) comes to find you wherever you are. All three of my civilian concealed weapon "events" occurred in normal suburbia.
 
My Seecamp is an always pistol. Its almost always in my back pocket.
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Same here, only a P32. There was no P3AT when I bought my P32 or I'm sure I would've purchased that. LCP is next; I like the way these tiny guns pack. They shoot pretty good, also.
 
Tons of reading and listening to what experts say is needed to stop a determined threat.
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So, in other words, when you say "experience tells me" you actually have no experience, but you've read some stuff and talked to some people. Just wanted to clarify that.
I prefer to put every tool in my box that I can possibly fit before trouble hits no matter how much more rare the need be.
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So, you're going to start packing around that S&W .44 Mag with the 6" barrel?
Let me ask you a direct question David. If you could only carry a handgun (since we can't conceal a rifle) & (a handgun that can be easily concealed) what caliber would it be if you knew a gun battle was coming and you couldn't avoid it?
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Lots of rifles can be concealed, given the correct dress, and given that I know a fight is coming why would it matter if I was carrying concealed or open? Do I get to have a silencer? Are my opponents mall ninjas? Are we in a dark warehouse with vampires hiding in the rafters? As long as you are playing make-believe, might as well go for the whole thing!:rolleyes:
I know you won't answer the question because I've asked it of you many times without a direct answer.
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Stupid questions get the best answer possible, sorry.
And please don't act as though you are the only one who studies this issue.
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Huh?? Sorry, you are making things up again. I have never suggested that I'm the only one who studies this stuff. I wish more would, yourself included.
You have a history of....looking down your nose posts...to many TFL members with whom you disagree.
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Gosh, cry me a river. My history is of joining into spirited debate with those who present their argument in a reasoned manner, using logic and facts. What I look down on is those who don't use facts or reason, or try to prove their point by doing stupid stuff like "Imagine you know you are going to go into a gunfight in advance...." when discussing CCW issues.
 
And this one's done, too.

Guys, here's a hint: when you find yourself looking for creative ways to insult other people because their viewpoints annoy you, it's probably time to get offline and go do something else.

pax
 
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