Interesting statistics from the FBI
- Thread starter JimDandy
- Start date
Speaking of homework, here's some more reading for the syllabus...
After Texas passed their Concealed Carry law, they commissioned a 3 year study on the effects it had, and the crime rates of permit holders vs non..
Here's the PDF hosted at a Texas Concealed Carry site... That is best summarized in the Concealed Carry wikipedia entry with the third paragraph of hte top section, pulling details from the paragraph..
Texas CHL holders were less likely to commit any given crime than a non CHL holder. Overall 13 times less likely. The offense most likely to cost them their CHL was DUI.
Looking at the bar graph here you can see that in every year of the study, just over 1% of the male population in Texas was arrested, 1000+ per 100,000. While the male CHL holders (Worst case included in the first number) remained pretty steady at just over 200 per 100,000. Or about .25% or less.
After Texas passed their Concealed Carry law, they commissioned a 3 year study on the effects it had, and the crime rates of permit holders vs non..
Here's the PDF hosted at a Texas Concealed Carry site... That is best summarized in the Concealed Carry wikipedia entry with the third paragraph of hte top section, pulling details from the paragraph..
Texas CHL holders were less likely to commit any given crime than a non CHL holder. Overall 13 times less likely. The offense most likely to cost them their CHL was DUI.
Looking at the bar graph here you can see that in every year of the study, just over 1% of the male population in Texas was arrested, 1000+ per 100,000. While the male CHL holders (Worst case included in the first number) remained pretty steady at just over 200 per 100,000. Or about .25% or less.
Dr Big Bird PhD
New member
Who would have thought that a citizen with a CHL was less likely to commit crime!
Charlie Beck of LA should read that.
Charlie Beck of LA should read that.
They do. They also have a column for gangland homicides.
Again, the data shows that the whole "assault weapons" topic is a smokescreen. The elephant in the room is the amount of homicides involving handguns.
I'm for fewer crime involving homicides whenever/wherever possible, so a study of these would not bother me. It even wouldn't bother me if the objective data from that multi-year/multi-area study showed that a meaningful percentage of private sales were leaking into criminal hands and that study recommended that all firearm xfers (outside of the nuclear famliy and grands) should go via FFL.
Which leads me to a private rant. We have a president who lived in south Chicago. I've been to south Chicago on several occasions since I grew up in the Midwest. It's a tough place. If this president were serious about reducing gun violence, you would have thought he would have asked the FBI to create a special team to trace the history of all firearms recovered from Chicago crime scenes. Chicago has tight gun laws, yet gun crime is rampant. If you were a dedicated person who wanted to see the end to gun violence and an effective application of gun control laws, you would start with the source and move backwards to gather data. How the heck could you be so worried about this as an activist while you lived there and then, after you get your hands on the controls, fail to pursue this? Moral failure (and worse, moral hypocrisy) drives me batty. Rant over.
Not news to me. 20 years ago my then 10 year old daughter did a social studies project for school.
When she found that long guns were almost never used in crime and the number of deaths were beat out by knives and fist; it was a real suprise.
Her teachers were also a bit suprised and confused. They had always just asumed that AR15's were often used in crime sprees. Turned out they were wrong and misinformed.
She went to state with that project, but only won at the county level.
It's always funny to see the politically correct caught by the truth.
When she found that long guns were almost never used in crime and the number of deaths were beat out by knives and fist; it was a real suprise.
Her teachers were also a bit suprised and confused. They had always just asumed that AR15's were often used in crime sprees. Turned out they were wrong and misinformed.
She went to state with that project, but only won at the county level.
It's always funny to see the politically correct caught by the truth.
Glenn E. Meyer
New member
Here is an interesting point. Joe Biden has made the point that they are not coming for your shotgun. He said in 2008 that Sen. Obama was not going to take your shotgun. The other day he said that again. He is a gun owner and likes to kill skeet - he has a shotgun.
Trying to split off the 'sportsmen'. Anyway, the other day a kid went to school with a shotgun and luckily was stopped.
The rates of rifle and shotgun crime look pretty close to me. Thus he is hypocrite (oh, well) - Shotgun Joe should want to sieze the shotguns. If it saves one life.
And who wants to shoot wild birds anyway - that's cruel. As far as skeet - go bowling, Joe - it's for the kids.
Trying to split off the 'sportsmen'. Anyway, the other day a kid went to school with a shotgun and luckily was stopped.
The rates of rifle and shotgun crime look pretty close to me. Thus he is hypocrite (oh, well) - Shotgun Joe should want to sieze the shotguns. If it saves one life.
And who wants to shoot wild birds anyway - that's cruel. As far as skeet - go bowling, Joe - it's for the kids.
The Reductio Ad Absurdum argument for Gun Control:
Applying the current gun control logic to these facts we can arrive at:
At the age of 18 all men can get married. Those who aren't married must be castrated as-
Only women in the police and military are allowed to have penises, because the little old lady down the block may have her penis stolen, and abused.
Men aged 18 or older are not allowed in the home of an acquaintance or family member, especially not during the hours of 6PM to 6AM.
All unmarried white men upon reaching the age of 18 must immediately move to a township or smaller jurisdiction, and get a work/travel permit if travel to a larger jurisdiction is required.
- About two-thirds of rapes/sexual assaults were found to occur during the 12 hours from 6 p.m. to 6 a.m.
- Nearly 6 out of 10 rape/sexual assault incidents were reported by victims to have occurred in their own home or at the home of a friend, relative, or neighbor
- About 4 in 10 rape/sexual assault incidents involved offenders who were age 30 or older, according to victims
- 33.7% of offenders were aged 18-24 at time of arrest
- only 22.1% of offenders were married.
- Over half of all rapes occur in jurisdictions with a population over 50,000
Applying the current gun control logic to these facts we can arrive at:
At the age of 18 all men can get married. Those who aren't married must be castrated as-
Only women in the police and military are allowed to have penises, because the little old lady down the block may have her penis stolen, and abused.
Men aged 18 or older are not allowed in the home of an acquaintance or family member, especially not during the hours of 6PM to 6AM.
All unmarried white men upon reaching the age of 18 must immediately move to a township or smaller jurisdiction, and get a work/travel permit if travel to a larger jurisdiction is required.