Info. requested from LEO- Police?

[BoulderTroll]

Thanks for the welcome, Kathy. I'm glad I found this site.

That said, if you show up with a warrant I'd still go on record as not consenting to the search and have my lawyer go over the warrant with a fine tooth comb afterwards just in case.

Treo, excellent plan and a wise choice. Unfortunately we deal with a lot of people who resist and want to argue about the finer points of legalities while on the scene. I have a lot of respect for people who use your approach of politely stating their non-consent and then letting their attorney handle it in the proper forum. As cops we wish everyone did it that way. Resistance while on a scene is likely to be worse for everyone involved.

 

[treo]

Resistance while on a scene is likely to be worse for everyone involved.

Especially the one doing the resisting.

Just so we're clear I've never had a search warrant served on me I'm just a student of civil liberties

 

[Delta1067]

You have gotten some good advice so far. Here are some things to think of:

1. Your alarm is not going to prevent burglaries.
2. It will be very rare for you alarm to be activated, your alarm company calls you, you drive to your business, and the suspects are still on scene.
3. Get a CCW.
4. If you don't get a CCW, don't worry to much about the Police searching a car of a 70 year old business man. I conduct preventive enforcment all the time and would never even blink an eye at a 70 year old man. I am looking for people in there late teens to 45 years old who also show signs of drug use or other indicators of criminal activity. If I acidentally stop a 70 year old I probably would just write him a warning ticket for the reason of the stop and not even run his ID. As an officer, you have to be efficient and spend time on things that are important and little to no time on things that are not.
5. Good luck. I hope you check on your business one night and catch someone breaking in and "feel threatened" and shoot them dead. Case closed--I hate a thief.

 

[Erik]

New law:

Arizona V. Johnson, U.S Lexis 868, January 26, 2009

In a traffic stop setting, the first Terry condition – a lawful investigative stop – is met whenever the police lawfully detain a vehicle and its occupants for a traffic violation. Police need not, in addition, have cause to believe any occupant of the vehicle is involved in criminal activity. All that is necessary to justify a frisk of the driver or a passenger during a traffic stop is reasonable suspicion that the person subjected to the frisk is armed and dangerous.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=000&invol=07-1122

 

[CDH]

One last thing, I really couldn't care less if you speed to get to your store after it's been broken into (as long as you don't hit anything). I understand how ****** off you feel and want to get there quick, but slow down and think about what you're doing. The faster you get there the more likely you are to have to use that gun of yours. And I'd guess you aren't trained or equipped to feel comfortable responding to and apprehending burglars in a safe manner. Just some food for thought.

Wow. I'm sure glad to here that.

I live in Houston and have my own business as well, with over 18,000 sq.ft. under roof on 2-1/2 acres just outside the 610 Loop.
When I get an alarm call at 1:am, I roll in Hwy290 at typically 90mph+, and the main street to my business at about 60mph+. Yes, I'm careful, but it's deserted at that time in the morning, and the lights that I run have no cars even in sight.
I've never yet been stopped.

The last alarm call was about three months ago, and it was a real one where the tin on the commercial building had been torn loose.
When I got there, there were already three cruisers (one being a K-9 Unit), and they were happy to see me so I could unlock the door and let the K-9 do a search because they thought the BG(s) were still inside (they were wrong).

All the while I walked around with the police, my cocked & locked Commander was clearly visible tucked into my back jeans pocket (I didn't think of grabbing a holster on my way out the door) but none of the officers ever asked me to see my CCW permit.
I guess when the real thing happens, we (LEO's and citizens) are on the same side.

The point made for the OP is that when push comes to shove, LEO's will always be on your side against the "enemy", so don't ignore them or shut them out. But also don't assume to know how they have to do their jobs.
What you perceive to be lackadaisacal behaviour on the part of LEOs is not at all what you think it is or for the reasons you assume them to be.

In the mean time, I'll keep making alarm calls at 90mph and hope that if I ever do get stopped for speeding, I can only hope that I get stopped by a LEO like BoulderTroll.