In what condition is ur CCW carried?

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Just curious as to what this group does...I've read tons and it seems there are folks on both sides of the chamber fence, more on chambered side. My habits are chambered in revolvers, such as SW642, chambered in true DAO's, such as Sig 290RS, condition 1 for 1911's, and condition 3 for models such as glock, XD, lc9s Pro, M&P, etc (I'm just not fully sold to rely on those internal safeties yet, outside of when hunting w/10mm Glock, but leaning towards trusting those internal safeties to do always do their jobs).

My question is, What condition to you carry your NON-1911's? Also, which model/action do you carry in that condition? For reference, I'll include the conditions of readiness, w/o cond#4, below.

Please try not to avoid writing about how all can be golden with training for both drawing and keeping trigger finger off. Those dead horses have been beaten enough, although completely valid, I agree! I shoot weekly and train on those things a lot but feel that I could never rack slide efficiently, one-handed, under extreme stress, which has me leaning towards Condition 0 for all non-1911's, especially for those polymer model's w/internal safe actions.

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Condition 0 – Round in the chamber; hammer cocked; thumb safety is OFF; full magazine in gun.

Condition 1 – (Also known as “Cocked and Locked”)- Round in the chamber; hammer cocked; thumb safety is ON; full magazine in gun.

Condition 2 – Round in the chamber; hammer down; full magazine in gun.

Condition 3 – Chamber is empty; hammer down; full magazine in gun.
 
I guess the way I carry would be considered condition 2. I carry with a round in the chamber, hammer down, and a full magazine. I also carry with the safety on if I'm carrying IWB though.
 
The rare times that I do carry (when it's legal only since I'm not old enough for a CWFL) I'd have to call it condition 2. I like DA/SA guns with the decocker and preferably no safety. So I carry full chamber and full magazine and simply decock to double action
 
Big4Freedom said:
My question is, What condition to you carry your NON-1911's? Also, which model/action do you carry in that condition? For reference, I'll include the conditions of readiness, w/o cond#4, below.
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I carry almost exclusively 1911s, in Condition 1. The only other pistols I'm ever likely to carry are:

FM Hi-Power ==> Condition 1
Colt Mustang ==> Condition 1
Colt Pony .380 ==> DAO, so there is no "Condition1". I carry in a pocket holster with a round chambered.
 
I carry striker fire pistol (no hammer).

Round in Chamber with full magazine and is ready to go (no manual safety).

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I always carry with a round in the chamber. I had the same feeling when I first started carrying as well.

Someone suggested an experiment to me. Put your gun and holster on with a full magazine without the gun chambered. Do do everything you think you could possible do. Go for a hike, driving a car, working in the garage, gardening, whatever... whatever bends or twists or contortions that you think you might possibly make.

At the end of the day.... check your gun. Did the holster gremlins pull your trigger at some point during the day? No? What makes you feel unsafe about it?

I personally feel less safe with a 1911 in condition 1 than I do with a chambered Glock. A manual safety can be knocked off on accident and granted the trigger is still covered it's got a much shorter travel and lighter pull weight. That's not to say when I had 1911's that I didn't carry them in condition 1.... I did. Just that I feel less comfortable with that than I do with the Glock or M&P on my side.

I would guess that you have a lot more experience carrying the 1911 than you do with the striker fired guns. That's why you're not comfortable with it. Basically, you just need to DO IT.... and you'll soon realize.... nothing is going to pull the trigger if nothing pulls the trigger. They don't magically go off by themselves.
 
Being that an unchambered gun is an empty gun.
LCP.....DAO with no external safety. So the hammer is down, round chambered, full mag.
Kahn CM9.......Striker fired with no external safety, long trigger pull....Same, chambered with full mag
Springer XD40 Subcompact.....Again striker fired, no external safety lever.......Loaded and ready.
The modern, passive safety systems are entirely safe if used correctly! Any gun with an external safety can be unsafe if used improperly.
 
I'm just not fully sold to rely on those internal safeties yet, outside of when hunting w/10mm Glock, but leaning towards trusting those internal safeties to do always do their jobs).
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You carry a lot of different handguns. I am not sure what internal safeties you are talking about, all they do on a Glock for example is prevent it firing if dropped or the trigger is not pulled. Something that is incorporated into all modern handgun designs as far as I am aware, this spin that a Glock has three safeties is misleading rubbish.

Personally i would decide on what way to carry depending on the saturation. I am a diesel fitter, climbing over and crawling under machinery regularly catching clothing etc, I would not feel comfortable with a round in the chamber.
 
I carry mine in slightly used, raring to go condition.

You can not depend on having two hands free to rack a slide in an emergency situation (and by definition in an emergency you are reactive not being proactive.)
 
Condition 0 for my DAO pistol.

Coming from a 1911 here's why.
1. I used to be "empty" chamber 1911, then my dog got tangled with a pit bull (much to the pitbull's chagrin) and I found being able to draw and cock it are difficult in situations where its more likely I'd actually need it.

2. I went to "cocked and locked." I started shooting competitions and saw B and C level shooters who would occasionally have difficulty with the safety.

3. So Condition 0 with a very good kydex holster. I do miss the safety for when I take the pistol out the holster on the rare occasion I need to (especially as I dropped a cocked and locked 1911 once-talk about screaming like a little girl :eek:). I would still like a grip safety, but its been years at this point.

As long as you are careful, as long as you have good, well maintained gear, and as long as you don't have little kids or other prying hands about, then its ok for me. Your mileage may vary and it really depends on what you are comfortable with or capable of.
 
Cocked & Locked since '63, 4 for 4 with Remington Rand 1911a1. A topped off mag. in the gun, and one spare mag.

I heard that Mr. Browning was a Cocked & Locked guy. If you want to carry the 1911 with a empty chamber and hammer down; use the old WWI & WWII flat holster. It was made to chamber a round and cock the pistol while drawing.
 
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