FWIW; I scoped my older Ruger Mk II, 6" bbl and when I'm hittin' on all eight, I can keep 3/4"-1" groups at 25 yds. When I stretch that out to 50 yds, my groups grow to 1 1/2"-2"+. Of course I had to go through every 22 ammo available and lots of shootin' (I even have A Paco Kelly Acu'rzr which will, with some ammo, shrink groups 25%). So far my best, consistent groups are from Acu'rzr Blazer...
In search of accurate 22LR semi auto . . .
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rt11002003
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I didn't have good results with Buckmark and the S&W 22A. I get good results with a Ruger Mark ii Government Target, Mark iii Target and Mark iii Competition Target. I use scopes on the Mark iii's, using rest on a good day I can hit 1/2 inch dots at 25 yards putting five rounds touching the dot. Usually I have to be happy with a 1" group, with a flyer.
My best results are with a S&W Model 41 using a Burris Fastfire red dot. I found the Hammerli Xesse Sport to be an excellent handgun using their recommended ammo.
I'd love to get my hands on some of the guns you guys mention, but they're so hard to come by and really expensive if one finds them.
My best results are with a S&W Model 41 using a Burris Fastfire red dot. I found the Hammerli Xesse Sport to be an excellent handgun using their recommended ammo.
I'd love to get my hands on some of the guns you guys mention, but they're so hard to come by and really expensive if one finds them.
I am in a somewhat quandary, having nixed my plan to buy a short .38 to CCW, am now looking for a .22 semi auto pistol. I am currently unable to find a Mark II anywhere except on line and I just am not willing to buy one I can't handle first. however I can find .22/45's which I owned one of and shot just fine just didn't "do it" for me, also I can find a Buckmark stainless for $460 or so, feels good just never owned one, but I like the comments I am hearing for their accuracy and reliability. I am not a precision pistol shooter by any means, if I can reliably hit a pop can at 25 yards, heck it would probably be an improvement. Any reason NOT to look at a Buckmark. Hoping to keep it a long time but it won't be a heavy used beater, just hoping for a nice, fairly light, plinker and woods wandering pistol. Thoughts?
I agree with those who have suggested the Smith & Wesson Model 41, the Ruger Mark target series (I prefer the Mark II iteration) or one of the older Hi-Standard target pistols. If you can't shoot one of these pistols accurately it's probably time to brush-up on the basic elements of marksmanship: trigger squeeze, sight alignment, breath control, follow-through, stance, grip, etc.).
All these posts and Prof Young did not even bother to post the group size is just wasting thread space.
I own a Mark one and can consistently shoot pop cans layed on their side from fifty feet but then I also practice at that distance with moving pop cans in a deep drain ditch. I suspect that his specific weapon has a problem with the bore or he needs to retrain his marksmanship skills.
I own a Mark one and can consistently shoot pop cans layed on their side from fifty feet but then I also practice at that distance with moving pop cans in a deep drain ditch. I suspect that his specific weapon has a problem with the bore or he needs to retrain his marksmanship skills.
Odd that only JohnKSa has mentioned ammo, probably THE most important factor in .22 RF accuracy. The description of groups spreading out beyond 10 yards or so indicates to me poor quality ammo with inconsistency in the bullets, or light bullets subject to every moving breeze.
With RF, of course, the old advice to experiment with loads doesn't apply, so finding the right ammo might be a bit costly, but I think it is necessary. With no idea of what is expected in the way of a group or what experience the OP has, it is hard to be specific, but it is a good bet that the best accuracy won't be found in plastic bags of cheap ammo, or in rounds with ultra-light super high speed bullets.
Jim
With RF, of course, the old advice to experiment with loads doesn't apply, so finding the right ammo might be a bit costly, but I think it is necessary. With no idea of what is expected in the way of a group or what experience the OP has, it is hard to be specific, but it is a good bet that the best accuracy won't be found in plastic bags of cheap ammo, or in rounds with ultra-light super high speed bullets.
Jim
bbqncigars
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As a happy owner of a 1968 41, I can say that the new SW22 Victory is worth a look. I wasn't happy with the trigger until the mag disconnect was removed (easy). About fifty rounds each of three different brands of ammo showed it has great potential for accuracy when the shooter isn't freezing cold. My LGS had it for $369. A good gun for the money.
QUOTE: "...With all three, after about ten yards, the groups turn into patterns..."
This is the part I'm having a hard time reconciling. If a pistol groups well at ten yards from a rest, there's no good reason that I can think of (short of a degradation in shooting technique) for the shots to turn into "patterns" at longer ranges and, in this case, three different pistols are doing the same implausible thing.
This is the part I'm having a hard time reconciling. If a pistol groups well at ten yards from a rest, there's no good reason that I can think of (short of a degradation in shooting technique) for the shots to turn into "patterns" at longer ranges and, in this case, three different pistols are doing the same implausible thing.
Well my search is over I think. Found a Browning Buckmark stainless Camper Model, finger groove grip and the green fiber optic front sight. Had to shoot it when I got home, only a couple mags but the 30mph wind knocking me around made it tough. I love the trigger shape and over all feel, things are a little stiff but beginning to loosen. Couple drops of oil is heling the smoothness factor. I like the safety as its the same easy thumb down as my 1911. About 8 ounces lighter than the Ruger I was also considering, plus the shop took some off for cash. Twas a good day. Now if I could just find a pallet of ammo at the old days prices.
Smathersfish
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I have a MK II Competition Target and it is a very good shooter. It is on loan to my sisters family as their kids are getting into shooting. My most used and most accurate semi 22lr is a CZ75B with Kadet Kit. A coupe of weeks ago I was hitting a 18" gong at 123 yards 70%-80% off hand. My new to me Beretta 87 Target may prove to be the best yet but only time will tell. The 87 Target has a nice crisp single action trigger, short reset, and is a natural pointer.
If I could have only one it would be the CZ!
If I could have only one it would be the CZ!
Supermatic
My most accurate .22 is my Hamden CT. manufactured Supermatic. It's pretty ancient with it's lever style barrel release.
If you like the old High Standards do some research first. You need to know what to look for with these pistols. Avoid mini-mags, stick with standard velocity .22 which also delivers the best accuracy in my experience.
2nd place would go to my old Scoped Govt. Target Mk. II. Wheels would have been a good accessory tho, def, not suited to carry. Darned accurate tho.
My most accurate .22 is my Hamden CT. manufactured Supermatic. It's pretty ancient with it's lever style barrel release.
If you like the old High Standards do some research first. You need to know what to look for with these pistols. Avoid mini-mags, stick with standard velocity .22 which also delivers the best accuracy in my experience.
2nd place would go to my old Scoped Govt. Target Mk. II. Wheels would have been a good accessory tho, def, not suited to carry. Darned accurate tho.
Prof Young
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Rodfac could be right . . .
Rodfac could well be right. I'm still relatively new to the shooting game only been pistol shooting a handful of years and have never had any kind of professional training.
Hartcreek if my posts bother you so much then don't read them. I wouldn't want to deprive you of any obviously needed rest and relaxation.
LIVE WELL, be safe
Prof Young
Rodfac could well be right. I'm still relatively new to the shooting game only been pistol shooting a handful of years and have never had any kind of professional training.
Hartcreek if my posts bother you so much then don't read them. I wouldn't want to deprive you of any obviously needed rest and relaxation.
LIVE WELL, be safe
Prof Young