Importing a slave class

get_involved

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IMPORTING A SLAVE CLASS
May 23, 2007


Apparently, my position on immigration is that we must deport all 12 million illegal aliens immediately, inasmuch as this is billed as the only alternative to immediate amnesty. The jejune fact that we "can't deport them all" is supposed to lead ineluctably to the conclusion that we must grant amnesty to illegal aliens — and fast!

I'm astounded that debate has sunk so low that I need to type the following words, but: No law is ever enforced 100 percent.

We can't catch all rapists, so why not grant amnesty to rapists? Surely no one wants thousands of rapists living in the shadows! How about discrimination laws? Insider trading laws? Do you expect Bush to round up everyone who goes over the speed limit? Of course we can't do that. We can't even catch all murderers. What we need is "comprehensive murder reform." It's not "amnesty" — we'll ask them to pay a small fine.

If it's "impossible" to deport illegal aliens, how did we come to have so much specific information about them? I keep hearing they are Catholic, pro-life, hardworking, just dying to become American citizens, and will take jobs other Americans won't. Someone must have talked to them to gather all this information. Let's find that guy — he must know where they are!

How do we even know there are 12 million of them? Why not 3 million, or 40 million? Maybe we should put the guy who counted them in charge of deporting them.

If the 12-million figure is an extrapolation based on the number of illegal immigrants in public schools or emergency rooms and well-manicured lawns in Brentwood, then shouldn't we be looking for them at schools and hospitals and well-manicured lawns in Brentwood?

I believe that the shortage of unskilled, non-English-speaking Mexicans we experienced in the '60s has been remedied by now.

Since Teddy Kennedy's 1965 Immigration Act, more than half of all legal immigrants have been unskilled, non-English-speaking Mexicans. America takes in roughly 1 million legal immigrants each year. Only about 30,000 of them have Ph.D.s. Why on earth would any rational immigration policy discriminate against immigrants with Ph.D.s in favor of unskilled, non-English-speaking immigrants?

Say, don't Ph.D.s and other skilled workers have more influence on government policy than unskilled workers? Aren't they more likely to bend a president's ear? Yes, I believe they are! Noticeably, the biggest proponents of the government's policy of importing a huge underclass of unskilled workers are not themselves unskilled workers.

The great bounty of cheap labor by unskilled immigrants isn't going to hardworking Americans who hang drywall or clean hotel rooms — and who are having trouble getting jobs, now that they're forced to compete with the vast influx of unskilled workers who don't pay taxes.

The people who make arguments about "jobs Americans won't do" are never in a line of work where unskilled immigrants can compete with them. Liberals love to strike generous, humanitarian poses with other people's lives.

Something tells me the immigration debate would be different if we were importing millions of politicians or Hollywood agents. You lose your job, while I keep my job at the Endeavor agency, my Senate seat, my professorship, my editorial position or my presidency. (And I get a maid!)

The only beneficiaries of these famed hardworking immigrants — unlike you lazy Americans — are the wealthy, who want the cheap labor while making the rest of us chip in for the immigrants' schooling, food and health care.

These great lovers of the downtrodden — the downtrodden trimming their hedges — pretend to believe that their gardeners' children will be graduating from Harvard and curing cancer someday, but (1) they don't believe that; and (2) if it happened, they'd lose their gardeners.

Not to worry, Marie Antoinettes! According to "Alien Nation" author Peter Brimelow, "There is recent evidence that, even after four generations, fewer than 10 percent of Mexicans have post-high school degrees, as opposed to nearly half of non-Mexican-Americans." So you'll always have the maid. As New York mayor Michael Bloomberg said, our golf fairways would suffer without illegal immigrants: "You and I both play golf; who takes care of the greens and the fairways on your golf course?"

We fought a civil war to force Democrats to give up on slavery 150 years ago. They've become so desperate for servants that now they're importing an underclass to wash their clothes and pick their vegetables. This vast class of unskilled immigrants is the left's new form of slavery.

What do they care if their servants are made citizens eligible to vote and collect government benefits? Aren't the fabulously rich happy in Venezuela? Oops, wrong example. Brazil? No, no, let me try again. Mexico! ... Well, no matter. What could go wrong?
 
What does it matter, they are here and we should employ them, even if they have no documentation and expect Americans to speak espanol. Get with the program man. Don't you understand that America is getting old, and needs that slave class to survive? It is for the best. !Viva la Raza! !Viva la Republica Norte!(roll eyes)

If you cannot beat them, join them.
 
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Slugthrower, I think you left out the "rolleyes" smiley.:)

get_involved, I don't agree with the "slave class" thing. What has been created, IMHO, is a super class that's above the law. I (and probably you) have to pay for health care, insure my vehicles, provide more than a "matricula consular" card to get a bank account or a credit card. For me a drunk driving charge would be very expensive, now and in the future, yet illegals are allowed to do it over and over. The list goes on, but the point is citizens pay through the nose while illegals are exempt.

badbob
 
We are getting way ahead of ourselves. Forget deporting anyone. Let's just see if we get more than 10 illegals in one year that actually return to Mexico and re-enter the USA to fit with the new immigration rules.....now that would be a truly amazing accomplishment. No, let's make it easy. Does anyone know of one illegal that will return to re-enter under the new immigration rules?

Can you imagine...millions in line to return to Mexico to re-enter this Country legally. What a sight. About the same chance as seeing Kennedy pounding away at the shooting range with a Glock 9mm loaded up with high capacity mags.:D

Now 12 million illegals paying a $5000.00 fine. That's a sure thing.:cool:
 
Yet another classic of bigoted stereotyping by Ms Coulter!

Seriously though, mostly the 1st gen Mexicans who "no habla ingles, senorita Gabacha flaca con pelo amarillo" are the maids. The following generations may not be college educated but they have opportunities other than mopping up after us cochinos since they usually speak English.

I still think they should follow the immigration rules, but if they broke them, I think they should pay a (big) fine, take English classes, and become citizens.
 
Sometimes I wish the "Native Americans" would of "enforced the borders"

Wait...that's right the Anglos took the land by force...
You fighting for what is "right"? Give back the land that was stolen.

That includes the land stolen from every Native American tribe, and from the nation of Mexico.

I am not Mexican, nor is my family... My parents migrated for a better life from a communistic republic... The Mexicans for the most part migrate here for the same goal as everyone that's already in this country, the AMERICAN dream!

Bigotry, that's all this attack from the conservative war machine is.
 
Ah, ha ha. The experience of the American aborigine is indeed instructive. The white man enormously outnumbered the autochthonous population, subsumed it, and utterly transformed North America into something that reflected his culture, proclivities, and character. Mexican nationals have the potential to do something similar. America is only America because it is inhabited by Americans. If it is inhabited by Mexicans, then it is Mexico. This country can tolerate some unknown amount of immigration and remain this country. Beyond that, it is transformed into some other country, presumably the source country of the immigrants. Mexicans don't want to live in Mexico. Why should Americans? Comprende?
 
Why do ants crawl on your picnic table ? Because there is more food there than where they are now . This is the major complaint that people have with illegals . They clutter the social services to the breaking point . Since they are invisable they cannot be considered in the funding process . To acknowledge their very existance would be the equal of accepting their right to be here . If I walk into your house and sit down and watch TV AND you do nothing am I trespassing??? If I eat your food and you just smile am I stealing ??? I remember a rape case some years ago . The guy threatened her with bodily injury . She then submitted but only if he wore a condom . He made her put it on him . When it went to trial the judge considered it "consentual sex". We have the same thing here . If you let it happen then there is nothing wrong with it .
 
Sometimes I wish the "Native Americans" would of "enforced the borders"

Wait...that's right the Anglos took the land by force...
You fighting for what is "right"? Give back the land that was stolen.

That includes the land stolen from every Native American tribe, and from the nation of Mexico.

I am not Mexican, nor is my family... My parents migrated for a better life from a communistic republic... The Mexicans for the most part migrate here for the same goal as everyone that's already in this country, the AMERICAN dream!

Bigotry, that's all this attack from the conservative war machine is.


I call bs. If you want to use this analogy, how about leveling the playing field and playing by the same rules that were played by in the period. The "native americans" attacked the "white settlers" at will for invading their land. The settlers attacked the natives to take the land. The settlers won.
If this were happening now, you as well as many others would be screaming racial violence, bigot yada, yada, yada.
I don't believe we should be going around shooting illegals on site, but I also won't by into the "if you don't love them your a racist" crap either.
 
The Mexicans for the most part migrate here for the same goal as everyone that's already in this country, the AMERICAN dream!

There's a vast difference between wanting to become an American and colonizing their own culture within our borders. Most of the illegals here consider themselves Mexican and have no real interest in becoming American by assimilating our culture. In essence they are recreating the country of their birth within our country.
Tomac
 
In essence they are recreating the country of their birth within our country.Tomac

With the added benefits of free school, free medical care, food stamps,
WIC, and other perks, all while flying the Mexican flag.
 
With the added benefits of free school, free medical care, food stamps, WIC, and other perks, all while flying the Mexican flag.

Bullseye!

I know it is a little off the original question but does anyone really believe that illegals will return to Mexico and then re-enter the USA to fit with the new immigration rules? I notice that even pro-illegals really don't believe this part of the bill will happen. In fact, when you read it says eventually return. I know of no one that seems to believe that there will be millions or even thousands return under these rules. So, why do we even talk about these things as though they will really happen?

Does anyone know of one illegal or a group of illegals that really plan to abide by these rules? Are we going to see proof that these people really return to Mexico?

IMO, we are just playing games.....they can pass the bill but illegals will never ever follow the rules. Could it be possible that our politicians have lied to us yet again?
 
America is changing folks. We should get used to the idea of change, even if it is all that you will have left in your pockets. The average age of the majority in the United States is 35+. We are getting old and will soon be replaced by the new face of America. Not a problem if you just accept that this change is inevitable. Nothing remains the same forever. Those that think our Republic was going to go unchanged only delude themselves. These immigrants have the cohesion and will power to create that change. The Anglos are lazy, complacent and will be replaced by a more vigorous, virile and potent people. The laws are being changed to reflect that. Those laws may not be favorable to the current majority, they will be very favorable for the future majority. Natural selection is seeing fit to ridding this country of those that will not earn their way by the sweat of their brow.

After all is said and done, it is about the almighty dollar. The few will profit by the misery of the masses. Did we really think that the, pseudo plutocratic, politicians were going to promote the general welfare over their own personal interests? This love of money is the root that has helped ruin the Republic.

The "Native-Americans" were in no way able or willing to enforce the borders as they didn't believe that the land belonged to them. The arboreal inhabitants would not have had a chance, since stone age weapons were and still are no match for firearms. My ancestors were those Cherokee that were sent on that Trail of Tears.

This is nothing more than getting what we have been giving for a few hundred years. English immigrants should have treated the arboreal inhabitants with fairness, then this wouldn't be a problem for the current population of Americans. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That is why we will pay through the nose for our past behavior.

I may look like a Anglo American, that would only be the cover that people judge. Yes, I will suffer along with the Anglos by the virtue of my skin color. It is the burden that America has earned for itself.

Yes, multiculturalism has sentenced us to a horrible death. That is just how it will be. The melting pot concept was destroyed during the 60s and 70s. We earned this. Blame oneself before blaming others. The fault lies within not without. The American people have destroyed themselves through apathy and ignorance.

No, I don't want to see this happen. These illegal immigrants should have been dealt with a long time ago. Just like cancer, if it isn't caught early it will kill. No, I will not employ those folks as a matter of principle, even though I don't truly have the luxury of principle.
 
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