Impeach Bush?

Like almost all polls (especially the ones on TFL) this one is bogus. They couldn't just have "yes", "no" and "I don't know"--they had to add little statements along with the answers to skew the results.

Tim
 
If your question was about what I think about the poll, I agree with Playboy. Two opportunities to say "no", with reasons to guide you there, and one oportunity to say "yes" with a reason to guide you there, and an "i don't know".

If your question was about what I think about impeaching Bush, the answer's Yes.
 
Has nobody else noticed that this is an article (and poll) from almost a year ago? During the Alito confirmation hearings?

Bringing this to our attention now, smacks of partisanship and ulterior motives.

Regardless, anyone care to name just one high crime or misdemeanor that would be an impeachable offense? Please back up your claim with a cite to the relevent federal law violated.
 
anyone care to name just one high crime or misdemeanor that would be an impeachable offense?
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I am not sure of the federal law, but I think Bush violated his oath of office by signing Campaign Finance Reform, after publicly stating he thought it was probably unconstitutional.

His oath is to protect and defend the Constitution. If you sign something into law that you think violates the Constitution, then it would seem to me that you just broke your oath.
 
Well, I'll defer proffering a charge until a special prosecutor has spent $100,000,000 investigating him, sniffing his wife's panties, having the FBI threaten his victim's mothers, that sort of thing.

Then ask me.
 
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Violating your oath of office is not an impeacable offense. Heck, it's not even a crime!

As to why the poll is still active... You'll have to direct that question to MSNBC. Badbob, look at the date of the article referenced in your second link, for the date.
 
I am not sure of the federal law, but I think Bush violated his oath of office by signing Campaign Finance Reform, after publicly stating he thought it was probably unconstitutional.
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Unregistered will now be jumped on for not playing lawyer and citing a "Federal Law" when his heart and mind tell him correctly, that the Constitution dictates Bush should have sent the Bill back to the House it originated in, instead of signing something into law he orally admitted was was unconstitutional.

The Constitution is the SUPREME federal law, yet I bet a dime to a doughnut someone is going to say "no federal law" was broken by Bush violating his oath of office intentionally, which is perjury.

Clinton was impeached upon perjury charges for violating an oath to a Federal Court in a sworn oath for purposes of taking his deposition. Bush has done worse. He has sworn to "preserve, protect, and defend" the Constitution, yet defied his promise by disobeying the dictates of the Constitution to return the Bill he does not agree with to the House in which it originated.

He didn't act to "preserve, protect, and defend" the Constituiton when he signed the "McCain-Feingold" First Amendment Nullification act.

In fact, he signed the "John Warner Defense Authrorization Act" and the "Military Commissions Act" which BOTH are laws OBVIOUSLY "not in pursuance of" the Constitution.

So Unregistered is correct. If Bush was to be impeached, it should be for the McCain Feingold debacle, (which kept the NRA from running ads ninety days previous to a Federal Election, thus removing part of my free speech rights)

The Democrats want to impeach him for Iraq. They all voted in FAVOR of authorizing Iraq, and it was Constitutionally approved. You can't impeach him for that, if your party voted in FAVOR of his actions.

You'd have to impeach him for doing things NOT in "pursuance of the Constituiton".
 
Gary, violating an oath of office is not perjury. Perjury is a very defined offense. This is not in its legal definition.
 
and that's before the first million is spent investigating, and before all the liberal media have had a chance to reach into Bush's zipper.
 
badbob said:
An MSNBC asks the question "Should Bush Be Impeached?"
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MSNBC has been asking that question since George Bush was inaugerated in 2001; as a biased liberal media entity, MSNBC has gone beyond the practice of journalism to being a lapdog for the Democrat National Committee.

The correct answer, of course, is this: Turn off MSNBC and switch to a less biased news source.
 
If this poll is a year old, why has the counter gone up almost 2,000 responses in 2 hours?
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Could it be because SOMEONE slapped the link to an old poll onto a bunch of internet bulletin boards today and asked "what do you think?"

Oh, you didn't know that the major news organizations' websites leave content online practically forever?
 
It's interesting to watch and listen to those that are positioned off the center of the political spectrum from the rest of us characterize a news outlet as biased, since "fair and balanced" is not in their interests. I have watched FOX actually move to the left, in my humble opinion.

A math derived example: the number line ... draw a line and place the number "Zero" at it's center and number the line segment to the right in equally divided integer segments up to +10. Number the line segment on the left up to -10. Zero represents the middle of most Americans' political position on the major issues today. This is theoretically possible to do, although impractical, I admit.

In my example, say I find myself at +8 on this line, but I am convinced that my opinions are mainstream. I think I am in the center and that my political opinions are the norm. In a discussion on TFL, I read post that quotes an article from CNN that is actually at the Zero point on the scale. Mainstream. But because of my prediliction for the right's point of view, being at +8, and thinking of my opinion as mainstream, I see that post as left wing and I make a snide comment about the Communist New Network (CNN).

All I did by doing that was expose my right wing bent. By the way, CNN makes no claim to being "fair and balanced". No network but FOX even makes it an issue. No other network saw a need to make that part of their identity.

Ever read the Conservative Chronicle? See, the difference between the left and the right in this country is that the right knows they are to the right of the oposition. The left keeps claiming to hold the center. That's hilarious to those that 1) know they are to the right and 2) those actually in the center, but don't realize it. Just as some claims from the right. I think the left position is a little more difficult to conceal. That makes it just as humorous as those on the right that would impose their religious beliefs on the rest of us, through legislation. So, what'll it be ... The Old Testament or Mein Kampf? That's a choice? There is a center in American life. I believe that it is to the right of where the media and government these days thinks it is. 'Just my belief.

Believe it or not, Attila the Hun here (moi) is farther to the to the left than you might think on some issues. But I ain't spilling the beans. That would spoil this little scree. ;)
 
I have watched FOX actually move to the left, in my humble opinion.
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I agree with you on that. It was mainly because their viewership has dropped 30% in the last year. I read a report last time I was on a plane talking about how Fox News spent sooo much money and tried so hard to convince the average American that most people where right of center and that it has started to fail miserably. In fact the article pointed out that in most polls 80% of people usually identify as being left of center when asked.
 
Well, I'd have to have some data to believe that. On the other hand, my faith in my fellow citizen wanes.

As for FOX, they'll do what sells air time. Most people that watch TV are ... oh I already mentioned my faith in my fellow citizens, didn't I?
 
My personal take on polls and surveys, are very simple the results are known before they are responded to because the questions are designed to lead the responders to agree with the poll no mater the subject, in an effort to gain the support of people that cannot or will not make up their minds independently.
 
Kelly J,

Yeah, they do tend to do that. They will have things like "Are you a good American that supports Bush and likes kittens" or "are you a traitorous pig who doesn't support Bush and bites the heads of puppies".
 
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