I'm REALLY disappointed in my Kel-Tec P32 . . . . .

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I don't recall where I said anything about "all pocket guns are crap". I said Kel-Tec's are crap, however, now that you bring it up, most pocket guns are junk, with the exception of a few well made guns. Most, however, are junk.
 
What's all this fuss about? It is clear that some like the little Keltec, so why be so abrasive and call them "crap"? I've got a number of H&K's, Glocks, S&W's and a safe full of nice guns. I bought the Keltec knowing that it wasn't an H&K, or Sig and frankly, the retail price gave that one away. It's a little gun with a limited nitch and some folks just like them. They are what they are. I don't think any of us view them as premier firearms. On the other hand, I have had fun shooting mine. For the most part, it just sits in the safe, minding it's own business.

Seems like ralphtt has a game plan. Good Luck..
 
Dude:

The reason why most of Kel tec's guns are under $400 is because you have to fluff and buff them.

Didn't do your research.

With a one hour fluff and buff job per ktog.org or the Kel Tec mailing list, it should be fine. I had a missing recoil spring on my P-32 at first. They sent me another one. Then, I had some feeding problems because my old slide had too much material inside the rail. Their CNC machining operations failed on that one.

But after some patience and some tinkering, its one hell of a pocket protector.

And did you try Silvertips? Per KT, the P-32 was designed with STs in mind. I also like the Hydrashoks for some decent ballistics for a 32 ACP gun.

Quit whining and work on the darn thing!

It's not a Glock, Sig, Kimber, or Les Bauer! It's a $240 gun, at that price point, what do you expect for the money?

And there are going to be time when you can't pack a 9, 40, 45. And any gun is better than a knife, it gets you distance and cover to avoid close contact with threats. you may not like it, but even expensive guns choke on ammo here and there.

As all have told you, call Cliff at KT and they'll get you on track. They know me really well. Also have a KT Sub-9 carbine that folds in half.

KT is a small family owned company trying to introduce products into a very competitive gun market and if saving $75 a gun to put the F&B on me is needed, I've got my own gunsmith tools and have no qualms about tinkering with it. Call Cliff or sell the darn thing.

When was the last time SW, Colt, Sig, or Glock had as product that was so so hot that people had waiting lists all over town and were bidding for that gun? They found the market now they only need to work on repeating their success consistently for every gun down the line.

You may just have a Monday gun. I'd ask them to swap it out for you from the factory or go back to your gun store for the swap.
 
Gary H

Well said.
It seems that there is an element on TFL that I've never noticed before. Some people seem to have their "attack switch" permanently set to "ON".

Kentucky Rifle
 
proximo & jtduncan . . . who in'ell is "dude" ???

Nowhere in the Kel-Tec literature or advertising do I recall anything about purchasing a do-it-yourself kit. And for something as critical as a concealed carry weapon, I prefer to leave the finishing to the pros. And I certainly did do my research . . . in excruciating detail, I might add. In reviewing your comments, I have only one suggestion . . . why don't you and the horse you rode in on go straight to he!!.:mad:

Kel-Tec supposedly did the fluff & buff while they had the P32. I'll give them another chance. And will report back with the results. :)
 
Ralphtt:

Sorry for rubbing you the wrong way. I've had a couple of KTs and know lots of other KT people.

BUT it's pretty well known that with Kel Tecs, you've got to do it yourself. That's all.
 
Progress . . . !

Kentuck . . . I called Cliff at Kel-Tec per your suggestion. He agreed to cover up to $20 of the cost of returning the P32 the second time. Said he would either make it reliable or replace it. :D

I suggested if he decided to replace it that he test-fire the new one to be sure it worked ok. He agreed.

Can't complain about Kel-Tec customer service. They seem to REALLY want to do the right thing. Hope it works reliably after this return trip to Cocoa, FL.

Sent the P32 this morning . . . Kel-Tec will have it tomorrow. Will keep you posted.
 
ALL RIGHT RALPH!!!

Thanks for the post! I just KNEW that Cliff at Kel-Tec would do right by you! I hated to read your first post where you were so disgusted that you wanted to put the little K-T in your safe and try to forget about it.
This time when it comes back, the pistol will be perfect and you'll be happy! Anything else I can do, just ask!!
Please keep me informed because your pistol will be coming back shortly.

Kentucky Rifle
 
ralphtt,

Good luck on your next repair.
I have owned two P11s, and we currently own two P32s.
All have needed work. Some I did myself, some I let the factory do.
I am reaching the end of patience with my current P32.
It is on it's way back from Fla. now.
(3rd trip, 4th, ... I've lost count.)

I had put around 200 rds through it after getting the slide and
barrel chromed at KT.
Then, I started getting "slide-lock-opens" which were kind of irritating, (not magazine related).
But, the most bothersome was the "failure to fire". This is a light strike caused by the hammer falling before it has traveled all the way to the rear.
I had this problem about 14 months ago.
KT installed a new frame and trigger assy.

Now, after 600 -700 rds, it has shown up again.
Man, that is a show-stopper in a self defense gun!

KT said that they installed a new trigger assy. (again), but now I don't know if I will be able to trust it again.

My wife's P32 had to have a really stiff trigger spring installed, because of light strikes. We haven't had any more problems with her gun, but she doesn't shoot as much as I do.
And her P32 has a trigger that feels like a P11.

KelTec has excelent customer service, some of the best in the industry. I think, if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to stay in business.

If KelTec comes out with a single stack 380 in a package close to P32 size, I may give them one more try.
As PT Barnum said, "There's one born every minute."
 
Unfortunately some folks don't seem to understand that everybody makes a lemon from time to time. I used to own a Beretta Jetfire .25 ACP that would fall apart as I shot it. A return to the Beretta factory failed to solve the problem so I got rid of it. After a few months I gathered the courage to try another one, and fortunately the second one was okay. That is, until the Kel-Tec P-32 came out. Bought one, loved it, and sold the second Beretta.

Mine has since been just fine. If yours doesn't work, send it to Kel-Tec and tell them you don't want it back until they can guarantee it works 100% or else they pay the return freight the second time.
 
ralphtt, kiss my behind.

Ok, the P32 isn't a do-it-yourself pistol. It just needs a bit of break-in and, oh, 500 rounds should do it. Or, you could take the time (instead of whining here) and do a fluff-and-buff on it. Either one, take your choice.

The only pistol I've ever taken out of the box that didn't require some break-in was a SIG P239 and it cost over twice as much as the P32. If you wanted a SIG you should have bought one. Instead you bought a P32, found out it wasn't a SIG (or Glock or whatever) then came here to bitch to all of us about your careless purchase. The fact is none of us really give a damn about your problems so take them somewhere else. We've tried to help by suggesting the simplest, cheapest, solution but you can lead a jackass to water but you can't make him drink. Your loss. I'm quite happy with my fluffed-and-buffed P32 and there are thousands of others that are too.
 
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