I'm kinda conflicted about something.

G22 or the GP100?

  • GP100

    Votes: 44 81.5%

  • G22

    Votes: 10 18.5%
  • Total voters
    54
Well, I would say the Glock would be the better item. Considering you already own one, then go with the .357 as I much rather shoot .357 and even carry it for SD.

My daily carry in work is a Glock 22 and I am totally comfortable with it but when I am on my own time, I am either going to carry a S&W model 686 or a Kimber .45.

If I had to make a choice of S&W or Ruger, I will go with S&W 100% of the time. Ruger may make a fine gun but my opinion is none of the Rugers I have have owned comes close to the quality and performance of the S&W.

The above said, everyone should own at least one .357 mag.
 
Some shooters like to consolidate all their guns to one caliber but for me, I like to mix it up. Its no fun to go to the range and shoot two or three guns that are almost identical. Your number one priority should be your SD/carry gun but after that, get something different. Bigger, smaller, revolver, etc.
Even though the GP100 only has six rounds, there is something cool about a .357 revolver. When you light off some full power loads you will get everyone’s attention and wont be able to get rid of your smile for quite some time!

VL
 
Gp100, you get 2 good calibers (.38 and 357) instead of one mediocre caliber (.40)

And ill just answer now, i see a lot of .40 fans coming up to argue.....

I dont see the point of an unpleasant to shoot round that has more recoil than a .45 and less power. I shoot better with .45, so i see .40 as a poor choice.
 
I'd go for the GP100. You already have a Glock 22 (I concur with a previous poster that if you want one with a rail that bady you should just replace your 2nd Gen G22) so another one would be pretty redundant. As others have said, the GP100 is a much more versatile gun and you already have lots of ammo for one.
 
I would buy the GP100 now. That is what you really want, so that is what you should buy.

When the 4th generation Glock is released early next year, you may be able to find 3rd generation models for good prices. Undoubtedly there will be some current Glock owners that simply must have the 4th generation model, and will sell their 3rd generation for a loss to do so. Sell your 2nd generation Glock 22 and buy a 3rd generation Glock 22 (or 23, if you want something a bit more concealable).

After this, you'll have your GP100 and you'll have your 3rd generation Glock with the rail.
 
What brand is the 1911?

Personally, I'd keep the 1911 and get a S&W K frame in .357 Magnum (model 66 or 19). I'd sell the Glock in a heartbeat. :-)

I hear the GP100 is a nice revolver. The trigger won't be as nice as a S&W but I hear they smooth up over time. Revolvers are great! I love not chasing brass. I love the versatility. I can load .357's from nuclear down to powder-puff without a worry. In any semi-auto I'd have to worry about battering on one end or not cycling the action on the other.

Even if you trade the 1911 and keep the Glock, a revolver is still a great idea.
 
We have today, a couple generations trained by TV, movies, and sometimes the military, that it is firepower that wins the fight. While true in military situations, it is not as true in civilian self defense.
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Suppose you're out walking and are carrying a Ruger SP101 or GP100. Suddenly, a pack of seven growling, slobbering dogs surround you, and it's apparent that you'll be attacked. So, you put your back against a tree and pull your SD gun; and, since you are only out for a walk you didn't bother to bring extra speed loaders. How do you think things will work out for you?

Now, contrast that scenario with one similar. But in the new scenario, instead of packing a revolver, you have a hi-cap Glock or similar semi-auto in 9mm or 40.

In which scenario do you think you are more likely to survive? As for me, I'll take the hi-cap semi-auto every time.
 
Also, I think that if you are basing your choice of a defensive handgun on what ammo the local Walmart always has in stock, you should re-examine your priorities.
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Well without ammo, you gun is an expensive club.;):D

I don't understand why you don't trust your 1911, unless there is something wrong with it. Properly done (and sadly, there are many that aren't) a 1911A1 is as good as anything, and better than a lot of things.
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I can't afford the .45acp ammo for it really. I also had to send it back to the factory twice after about 2 months of ownership even though I bought it new. I'm now out of practice ammo & couldn't afford anymore even if I could find it & since my first time with it didn't end well, I no longer want it.

What brand is the 1911?
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Springfield GI model in .45acp with 5" barrell.

EDIT: Big Bill, I would be willing to chance that after the first 6 dogs are dead/maimed, the last one would run off if it hadn't already from the loud shots.;)
 
EDIT: Big Bill, I would be willing to chance that after the first 6 dogs are dead/maimed, the last one would run off if it hadn't already from the loud shots.
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That may happen after the first shot. But, I'll take my 15+1 round auto to anyone's 5 shot revolver any day.

IMHO, it was the superior firepower of the Garand over the German Mauser that won WWII for the allies. Firepower isn't everything, but it's sure way ahead of whatever's in second place. :)
 
Firepower isn't everything, but it's sure way ahead of whatever's in second place.
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Freedom of religion is a wonderful thing! :D

Personally I subscribe to the accuracy religion. Firepower is up there too but not in first place for me. Ain't America a great place? :)

As for affording ammo, have you considered reloading? That's how I've been shooting my 1911s (and my .357 Mag. revolvers too). I've only just started seeing .45 ACP on the shelves again but not at prices that have made me want to buy any. OTOH, my reloads with Berry's plated bullets are affordable and work great.

As for not trusting a gun you had to send back - that I understand. Quality control seems to be off all over. Any day now we'll start getting reports of slides flying off Glocks and Sigs kabooming. My cure for anything that might ail my 1911s is Jerry Kuhnhausen's excellent book. The 1911 platform is very straight-forward and easy to understand how it works.
 
As for affording ammo, have you considered reloading? That's how I've been shooting my 1911s (and my .357 Mag. revolvers too).
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Don't have the space/knowledge or most importantly, the money to get set up. Being unemployed is a *insert profanity here*.:(
 
I voted for another G22.

The only reason I like to have two of the same model gun is in my case, where I have one to wear out practicing with it and shooting in matches, and one in pristine condition to carry.

My duty guns are well broken-in, especially with the specific ammo I carry, but I try not to wear it out or gum it up with dirty ammo or bare lead (which has a nasty wax lubricant ring that gums up everything).

I like being able to shoot cheap ammo, including bare lead reloads, in my "practice" gun, and not worry about gumming it up or wearing it out.

I'm also buying a Lone Wolf barrel for my practice G22 so I can shoot bare lead in it too. The Lone Wolf barrels have standard rifling and better-suppported chambers, so are much safer shooting reloads (especially bare lead) than a standard Glock barrel with polygonal rifling, which can cause a Kaboom with bare lead unless it's very hard lead.

I never shoot anything but premium practice ammo and duty ammo in my duty guns, and then only 50 or 100 rounds to test them out occasionally before I clean them.

The other factor is cleanup - I hate cleaning guns, and the only one I clean after each range session is my duty gun - My practice gun may go six months without a through cleaning. I just lightly lube it, swab the barrel, and wipe the grit out of the slide groves & rails, unless it starts malfunctioning or gets really nasty. Glocks are great in that respect.
 
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Suppose you're out walking and are carrying a Ruger SP101 or GP100. Suddenly, a pack of seven growling, slobbering dogs surround you, and it's apparent that you'll be attacked. So, you put your back against a tree and pull your SD gun; and, since you are only out for a walk you didn't bother to bring extra speed loaders. How do you think things will work out for you?
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If you shoot one dog, the rest will leave. Been done too many times by LEO with packs of pit bulls and dobermans. Maybe it is the loud noise of a gun hurting their ears but they will run away, usually in different directions.
 
Its your opinion...

And you are welcome to it.
IMHO, it was the superior firepower of the Garand over the German Mauser that won WWII for the allies.
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But you might want to consider a few small contributing factors, like strategic bombing, air superiority, being able to out produce the Germans by a huge amount, a safe secure homeland, free from enemy bombing and rich in natural, human, and industrial resources. You know, little things like that. The bulk of Germany's combat resources being locked in a death struggle with the Soviet Union might have played a small part also.

And didn't we also win WW I with the same 5 shot bolt action type rifle the enemy was using?

The M1 is a fine combat rifle. It gave our boys a definate advantage. But it didn't win the war all by itself.

And as to the seven vicious dogs, well, we can play what if all day. What if your hicap auto jams? What if you have a bad round? What if your nervous hands sweat so badly on the plastic grips you lose control of the gun? What if the tree your back is against falls on you?

Keep and carry your hicap. Its not a bad thing. But don't make out a revolver is, just because it isn't your thing.
 
What if the tree your back is against falls on you?
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That happened to me a couple times, AMP..... But since I was carrying a hi-cap auto, I was able to turn the tree into splinters before it fell on me. :D:p

But seriously, I picked the GP100 because I want one bad....lol..
What John said earlier about how every shooter should have a 4" SS .357.... I would have to agree with that. I feel jipped not owning one, but I'm gonna change that real soon! ;)
Two of my friends have GP100s and they're great guns. (and nice lookin', too!)
I have a G22 and I wouldn't buy another one. Don't get me wrong, I like glocks (and I have a few)....but no way I'd buy another one. I don't use the rails on any of them, but if that's what you want....like others suggested...just trade up.

And OP, that sucks your GI is acting up.... I have a mil-spec that runs like a top, and I've heard good things about Springer 1911s....
 
And OP, that sucks your GI is acting up.... I have a mil-spec that runs like a top, and I've heard good things about Springer 1911s....
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I'm sure they can make nice guns. My father's "loaded" worked just fine out of the box. Of course he paid about $350 more than I did.:(

It was an accurate little gun I'll say that for it. If I needed a range gun & could afford the ammo, I'd keep it.:)

But as it is, I just want another CCW gun. And that means a gun that I have absolute faith will work when I need it. That means practice. Practice means ammo & ammo I can't get.:(
 
I would get the GP100. Revolvers are a joy to shoot, and you are limiting your horizons by sticking with a single platform. Another Glock will likely shoot just like the Glock you already have on hand.
 
GP100

Considering your situation I would go with the GP100. Cheaper to put rounds through it, .38 spl, and .357 loads for carry.

As for the wild pack of dogs idea. With a Ruger you shoot the first 6 and club the seventh to death:D
 
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