armoredman
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If all the Navy vets I met who claimed to be SEALs actually were...the Navy would be almost all SEALS...I was a lowly Gunners Mate SN on an ammo ship, never anything special, and will never, ever claim to be.
Special Forces includes all the "sharp end" guys we normally think of, Green Berets, Delta Force, Rangers, and Chuck Norris...
Actually in my first hitch I was in the Signal Corps as well. Not too far from the time frame she served and also at Ft. Bragg for some of that time... at gasp... a Special Operations unit.
"As a veteran, I’m intimately familiar with the destructive power of firearms."
I found this statement in her article in The Lily. The statement is, at a minimum, extremely deceptive. However, I believe it is an outright lie!
I suppose it depends on how one defines "intimately." It could be argued that one cannot be "intimately" familiar with the destructive firepower of a firearm unless one has been shot with one, or unless one is an emergency room doctor in a trauma center.44 AMP said:Deceptive, yes, being a veteran is not in any way a prerequisite to being "intimately familiar with the destructive power of a firearm"."As a veteran, I’m intimately familiar with the destructive power of firearms."
I found this statement in her article in The Lily. The statement is, at a minimum, extremely deceptive. However, I believe it is an outright lie!
If you stretch things enough, anyone who has ever seen a bullet put a hole in something is "intimately familiar with the destructive power of a firearm".
So, in that regard, its not quite a lie.....I think...
As it turns out she was a Signal Officer in charge of a signal company in the 112th Special Operations Signal Battalion.
That's pretty much the point. She didn't outright lie (exactly), but she also didn't exactly tell the truth. As you wrote, she is milking it hard and playing on people's ignorance.davidsog said:Wow, she is milking it hard and playing on people's ignorance.
That's why I liken her article to stolen valor. Her claims aren't much different (if at all) from the cook who never went beyond Spec4 and never deployed claiming to be jump qualified, Combat Infantry Badge, and Ranger qualified. Yes, she served. But she wasn't what she has put herself forward as having been.MTT TL said:This woman is clearly trying to mislead people about her bona fides and therefore I find her unworthy of respect due to the deceptive nature of her opinion piece.
Claiming jump and Ranger school without going would be a lie.
That's why I liken her article to stolen valor.
That is illegal too. It is all stolen valor if you lie or misrepresent your service record.
We had a chaplin show up to the unit with a Ranger Tab and MFF wings. Turned out he did not attend either school but made himself PX qualified. His excuse was he thought the unit members would not respect him.
He was arrested. The charges were dropped in exchange for his resignation from the Army and acceptance of an other than honorable characterization of service.