I'm a failure:(

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BadMedicine

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I failed my microsoft NT4 in the enterprise exam today :( I only got 577 out of a needed 777 to pass. Another hundred dollars down the tube. Now it's going to be even longer before I can buy my varmint gun, and pump 12 :( Anybody else take the microsoft exams? I know there're some techies in here. Guess It's back to the books for me.
 
No way on exam can determine if you're a failure. You've got the right attitude, hit the books harder and kick the next test's tail.

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"Get yourself a Pistolet Makarova and lose that pricey western gadget."
 
Hang in there Bad Medicine, keep at the books, study the ones you had wrong, take the test again, then get your varmint gun. :) Real failures give up. Best of luck!
 
Sociologist have studied the differences between wildly successful people and failures. They looked at height, weight, IQ and so on. The one thing that stood out was the successful people failed many more times than folks that tended to fail, because failures quit while still down.
 
You're a good guy, BadMedicine. Don't let yourself get duped into thinking any less. Study well ... you're no failure unless you give up being human.

You're a good guy.
 
"A failure? A FAILURE?

Was it a failure when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

(but the Germans didn't bomb Pearl Harbor...)
(forget it, he's on a roll...)

They're damned tough exams, dude. You're not a failure. You may have failed the test, but does that make you a failure?

I suggest you go drown your sorrows in .22 ammo at the local gun range... Nothing like punching holes in a target shaped like the Microsoft Flying Window to make you feel better. :)

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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.

If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
 
Dude fear not, I'm in the same boat except mine is MCSE 2k. I failed one and the response I get from some is " You only failed one". Of course there are those that say that craps easy.

Anyway, if you haven't gotten Transcender yet GET IT!!!!! If you have any question e-mail me or post on The Range House and I will give you all the answers. Problem is all mine are usually wrong. ;)

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DUM SPIRO SPERO
While I Breath I Hope
 
I would suggest a review course. May cost a little, but it is less expensive than your time studying the wrong things.



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Richard

The debate is not about guns,
but rather who has the ultimate power to rule,
the People or Government.
RKBA!
 
Excuse me, but why are you taking an NT4 MCSE? Save your money and take the 2K test - you'll need it eventually.
 
Ding, I kinda agree with you. I thought of that when I started but many small compainies will take a looong time to move to Win 2000. I have done work for some who are using still Win 3.1 and 95. The reason I choose 2000 is that I know that I will not be done by the end of this year.

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DUM SPIRO SPERO
While I Breath I Hope
 
Ding and JCH, for those of us like Bad Medicine (and me) who are pursuing an MCSE, the timing is a bit odd.
Yes, with the implementation of the 2000 platform, MCSE under NT 4.0 will be less desirable. But many employers will still desire it. How many businesses out there will be running NT for sometime to come? Plenty.

But there is a very good reason to take selected requisite MCSE tests this year. If you pass NT Server, NT Workstation, and NT Server in the Enterprise before December 31, you will be qualified to take the "accelerated" exam after January 1. This exam, coupled with the aforementioned 3 exams, will net you an MCSE under the 2000 platform. This accelerated exam is the same exam that those who are now MCSE NT will take to upgrade their certification to 2000.
I suppose Microsoft is offering this options to MCPs because of the timing factor. I enrolled in school in March. It is bloody difficult to get all exams for MCSE under your belt in 9 months. And of course, if you did, you would just have to take the accelerated exam anyway.

Bad Medicine, I am right where you are, friend. Passed Workstation 933/1000. Passed Server 966/1000. (yes, I am proud of those scores.) Now I am studying for Enterprise. I am a little concerned about this one. The first two exams were standard, non-adaptive tests, 30 questions each. Enterprise is an adaptive exam, and I will not be getting a score in the 900's this time, I fear. Go back and pound the material. You still have 7 weeks to pass it.

Look at it this way. You paid 100 bucks to get a look at the test. That is not money down the drain, as far as I'm concerned. Hang in there. You'll get it. As far as being a failure, I think not!

If it makes you feel any better, one of my instructors is one of the most brilliant, computer savvy people I know. He works for Siemens and he is a hotshot. He failed the Essentials exam 4 times before passing. Many of these questions on the exams are idiotic and very poorly worded. You have to get into that Microsoft question-and-answer mode. Rather than taking the time to think up a scenario and developing the question in a logical manner, they have an answer at which they wish for you to arrive, and then build a question around it. It's asinine, and is not indicative of your performance in a real world production environment.

Food for thought.
 
I passed Enterprise a couple weeks ago. Passed TCP/IP last week. I've got 5 down, and one to go.

Enterprise was the probably the toughest. Along with TCP/IP. I wouldn't think of myself as a failure for not passing enterprise the first time.

Check out measureup also. Those questions are pretty good for practice. I would steer clear of relying on any "braindumps".
 
Thanx for the support guys. I'll try my best to keep this guns related.
My brother is already and MCSE(NT4) so I have all of the cram exams {guns} and all of the transcenders I need. And I already took a "course", it cost like $8,500. But it is a year long tech pass, so I can take the 2000 track for free now after the new year. {guns} I'm pursueing the NT4 track first because after talking with many techie friends, and my instructor, I've heard that the 2000MCSE only builds on whats new, so if you don't have a foundation to build on, um, your screwed. Also, alot of small companys won't be dropping everything to get this new software, exspecially {guns}since it has some 300,000 reported errors, and many of them are just getting all the service packs for NT4. I need to get the core knocked out before newyears, but then my cert wont esxpire for another year, during which time I can work as a MCSE {guns} and try to get my 2000 cert. I'm also taking electives that carry over to the 2000 track, so that wont be such a waste.
I was sooo psyched and sure I was going to pass. I've read all the examcram, and have been passing the adaptive and regular trancender tests. Oh well, nothings free right? Atleast I didn't totally bomb it. Thanks again for all the support. :D
 
Well...I wish I was in the same boat as you guys.. First of all, I was approved for some kind of a business council grant that is going to pay me 10k to go to school (it's not that simple, but that's the jist...) I didn't get the funding until late this summer, so I ended up taking the fast track, starting in august, and ending in early october. Then I didn't have all of my course materials mailed up from my brother yet (transcenders, workstation/Tcp/IP, and server cram exams,) so I started studying enterprise. I haven't passed any of my tests yet, and still only have 7+ weeks to do it :D Oh well, I think I can do it. I'm pretty computer litterate, I have my brother on speed dial for tech support, and a computer network at home to practice on with cable modem :D I've got the rescources, and I'm studying about 8 hours a day. Hopoefull I can pull this one off. Once I get enterprise out of the way, it's all down hill, and it oughta be quick trip :D
 
Bad Medicine,

Feel free to email me, with any questions. Maybe I can help since I've just recently taken the tests. I'm not the computer genius or anything, but who knows. Besides, it'll help me learn too, if I have someone asking me challenging questions.

BTW, what's the IT job market like up there in Anchorage? If I could find a job up there, it would be a dream come true.
 
You are far from a failure. 577 means you missed all of about 2 questions. On the contrary, not passing a MS test means you can think for yourself. I failed TCP/IP four times, and consider it a thing to be proud of. To me, it means that I understand TCP/IP, and don't give a flying one about WINS. What scares me is "acing" Exchange 5.5 and SITE. Both side-step the X-dot specifications that real networking is built on. Since this is sadly a certification driven industry, that piece of paper is going to translate into real $$. Hang in there, it's a tough go, but worth it in the long run. Suggest you study Server and Workstation as well as SITE, since over half the questions deal with Server and Workstation. FWIW, my company quit sending engineers to 4.0 as of the first of the year, and have concentrated on 2K for certification. You're right. You need to know both, but certification in 4.0 is a dead end. None of the core exams, carry over to 2000, and the electives are due to expire in 2001. Read for 4.0 to get the idea of what's going on, but study and test for 2000. Most of the accelerated test deals with the marketing of 2000 over 4.0, and the differences between them from a sales standpoint. To get by the MS tests, you have to think of MS as being the only thing out there as far as software. Don't try to analyze what would be the best way to approach something, think instead of what would sell the most MS product to accomplish something.

Gun related part. I get a $$ bonus for each test I pass, so my MCSE isn't just a piece of paper. Mine is a Buckmark, a CZ and a couple of Winchesters. :)

[This message has been edited by RAE (edited November 07, 2000).]
 
You think that is hard? Try the CCIE/CCNE exams. The person who wrote the test was said to have failed it later. I know people who could all but build a Cisco router from spare parts and they are on their third attempt. Trust me. Don't feel bad about it. They are insane

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You think you're a failure?! I don't even have a clue what you all are talking about. I think it has something do with computers, but that's it! I feel like an uneducated idiot!
 
Obviously spending too much time at The Firing Line and not enough time in the books or in front of the keyboard!
Better luck next time!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buzz_knox:
You think you're a failure?! I don't even have a clue what you all are talking about. I think it has something do with computers, but that's it! I feel like an uneducated idiot![/quote]

Wrong way to take it, Buzz. I know precisely what he's talking about, but so what? I consider myself a fairly intelligent guy, but I am clueless when the conversation turns to bass fishing or hydraulics or fashion. We can't be experts in everything. Doesn't mean we're idiots.

There is a big difference between stupid (permanent condition) and untrained (alterable condition). You are apparently untrained in the MCSE curriculum. No big deal.


[This message has been edited by David Scott (edited November 08, 2000).]
 
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