Illinois Ban on Carry Ruled Unconstitutional (See Page 7)

07/09/2013 78 Mandate issued with bill of costs in the amount of $834.30 & $931.90. No record to be returned. [78] [6498755] [12-1269, 12-1788]--[Edited 07/09/2013 by RS]--[Edited 07/09/2013 by RS] (RS)
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On the costs, the first amount is for Moore and the second amount is for Sheppard.
 

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It doesn't look like Moore is going to SCOTUS, both the Illinois House & Senate just over-rode the Governor's veto.

HB183 has become the law in Illinois - a shall issue CCW bill.
 
Veto Overridden by the IL legislature.

http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-house-votes-allow-carrying-concealed-guns-182937243.html

77-31 in favor of shall-issue.


Democratic Governor Pat Quinn had objected to several provisions of the proposal and vetoed parts of the bill. The vote in the House was 77 to 31, which was more than enough to override his objections.
The proposal becomes law if three-fifths of the legislators in each chamber vote to override the governor.
The Illinois proposal says that the state police "shall issue" a permit to carry concealed guns to any applicant who passes a background check and takes 16 hours of required firearms training. The bill would ban guns in some public places such as bars, churches and schools.
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While its not perfect, at least its something. Now the citizens of Illinois can join those in the other 49 states and carry concealed (well, in 9 months or so as the Illinois Sate Police will take every possible day to get everything finalized).
 
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it drug out more than the 9 months due to processing and training... I see essentially the ISP getting it done and set up, instructors and all at the last moment to meet the court deadlines, THEN starts the process of taking your CC class, applying for the permit, background checks and sending them out. Best bet I see is first permit issued late 2014, early 2015.

It's a start, hopefully this will allow us to revisit the issue later on and get a more gun owner/practical amendment. It's a victory even though it isn't the best law...
 
ThesNazud said:
I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see it drug out more than the 9 months due to processing and training... I see essentially the ISP getting it done and set up, instructors and all at the last moment to meet the court deadlines, THEN starts the process of taking your CC class, applying for the permit, background checks and sending them out. Best bet I see is first permit issued late 2014, early 2015.

It's a start, hopefully this will allow us to revisit the issue later on and get a more gun owner/practical amendment. It's a victory even though it isn't the best law...
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I agree with you completely. I just was saying the ISP getting the final processes completed. The training and such, yep, many more months after that before a person is finally able to get the permit. $150 for the same background check that you pay $10 for when getting a FOID card. SCAM!!!!!! Plus the cost of required training.
 
For a long time they were debating allowing the counties the ability to change the rules for themselves. That provision was dropped. I am guessing a lawyer will go through Chicago's existing ordinance, cross out the parts that are void because of the new state law, and that will be that. AFAIK, you will need a FOID, CCW, and CFP to carry in Chicago.

IMO, both the CFP and public transit CCW ban are unconstitutional, but we'll have to live with them for now.
 
Here Comes Da Judge! Here Comes Da Judge!

So now the only question is when will little Lisa go running to the SC pleading for a stay. Or will little Paddie boy run down to the SC behind her back? But you gotta know that the line in Vegas is 10:1 in favor of the petition. Its now just a matter of when...........

Stay Tuned. Here we go again.......
 
ISP is already backlogged on FOID applications, they'll use everyday of that 6 months to set this up. They'll be getting new/renew FOID apps during that time as well. I don't see any ccw permits till early-mid 2014.

But at least we have it. Now, about reciprocity with other states?
 
So now the only question is when will little Lisa go running to the SC pleading for a stay. Or will little Paddie boy run down to the SC behind her back? But you gotta know that the line in Vegas is 10:1 in favor of the petition. Its now just a matter of when...........

Stay Tuned. Here we go again.......
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Huh? State AG's don't generally file suit against their own state's laws, much though they might like to. Moreover, there's no federal issue here. Ms. Madigan mayn't like that Illinois is now a shall-issue state, but she has no standing upon which to change that (administrative sour-grapes foot-dragging aside).

The unfortunate part of this is that the 7th circuit's decision is now made moot.
 
Illinois has enacted a concealed carry law

Both houses on the Illinois General Assembly (House and Senate) passed a "Shall Issue" law subject to a long list of prohibited places. Nevertheless, it was at least a "start". However, at the "eleventh hour" the Governor issued a "veto" that was (permissible under the Illinois Conxtitution) also an offer of several acceptable changes. That veto was overriden today and Illinois now has a concealed carry law. It will be 9-12 months before any licenses are issued. And, there are some real flaws, but Illinois has joined the other 49 states with some kind of concealed cary allowed.
 
Merging threads.

The Senate voted 41-17 to override Governor Quinn's veto today.

My question is this: does this mean that the stuff Quinn added as part of his amendatory veto gets the axe?

If so, Illinois still has a flawed carry law. 16 hours of required training, a ban on public transportation, and a ban on carry in establishments serving alcohol are still big hurdles.
 
Yes, it does. Quinn's amendatory nonsense goes away immediately.

You are correct, though, it is a flawed bill. It is however light years beyond what we had which was nothing at all.

We will continue to work and try to get the more onerous parts of the bill taken out as time goes on.

Congrats to those who worked so hard to get this far.
 
The analysis I read said that Quinn's amendments are void. The law is enacted as it was originally passed.

Congratulations to Illinois on finally having (almost) concealed carry.

It has not escaped my notice, also, that Illinois now replaces Texas for having the most burdensome training requirement of all states.
 
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