I still haven't decided which caliber to go with, I appreciate all your suggestions. I think I will rule out a 22lr because I'm into reloading and I have a 22 pistol and a Remington pump 22 rifle, also some the harder hitting recoil rifles. I like the suggestions on choosing a caliper thats a little different. These are some of the calibers I'm thinking of 222 Rem, 22 hornet, 222 swift, 204, 243, 6.5 Grendel, any 6mm or 6.5 calibers.