If both OC and CC is/were an option, which of the following best applies to you:

If both OC and CC is/were an option, which of the following best applies to you:

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And that worked 100 years ago when there was no law and order and very little population. I lived in NV, even sparser than your AZ and I don't agree on OC where CC is a better way to go.
MY opinion - you want to take it as an insult, please feel free, won't change my view. No different than those in CA a few years ago who were OCing unloaded guns - a Hey look at me attempt that did more harm than good.

Again -out hunting?, working open range with cattle? walking your dog where the illegals are crossing your property? No problem, go for it. Walking down the street holding your little kid's hand to get an ice cream? Sorry, not seeing the need for that
 
I used to open carry exclusively, and no, it wasn't to call attention to myself. Quite simply, I didn't have a CHL at the time. At the risk of boring repetitiveness, most people don't notice even an open carried full-size service pistol. It's bizarre.

Today, it's about a 60/40 concealed/open split, depending on weather, wardrobe, and anticipated activities. I've found tuckable IWB holsters to be a Godsend when social or family activities might render an open carried firearm a bit outre. Spats McGee mentions something as simple as removing a jacket or suit coat before mounting up. I hate driving with a suit coat bunching up under and behind me, so I like to shuck the jacket and hang it in the rear. Here in Virginia, no problem!
 
I have both options available here but CC only. I do carry OWB most of the time with jacket, T-shirt, or sweatshirt and remove jackets, sweatshirts w/o giving exposure a second thought.
If going to a more metro area, I IWB or pocket carry.

I am polite, friendly, smiling and gentlemanly to all I have to interact with when necessary, but given my druthers, I'd generally rather not interact.
Open carry would be enough reason around here for any kook to spout their opinion, whether for or against, and I definitely don't want to deal with that while going about my business.

I would never be mistaken for a LEO and I take a German Shepard with me almost everywhere I go and don't want to appear to be a wannabe LEO by OC'ing. This town is too small for me to be "that guy".
 
I am fortunate to live in a state where both are legal and possible. I don't know whether it's our culture, or whether people are just that oblivious, but whenever i have OC'd I have never noticed anyone noticing me, I carry a small(-ish) revolver (k-frame or equivalent) or auto (Glock 19 or equivalent) at 4:00in an OWb rig, and have never had occasion to worry about being "made," OC or CC.

I voted mostly cc with occasional oc.
 
And that worked 100 years ago when there was no law and order and very little population.
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And it still works today, in a state with 6.5 million residents, less than a borough of NYC, I think. :)
The unloaded guns in CA was a political effort that did backfire - the population wasn't used to it, and the leftists that run things out there ran scared. I pity them.
I don't take offense personally, but you did demean all those who do carry openly, as a legal option, and while sometimes it may be unwise for certain places/locations/political subdivisions, it does work very well here in most circumstances. Of course, with Constitutional Carry, we can carry either way without a government permission slip, which is very nice.
Once again, thank you for your viewpoint, which is always valuable.
 
I tend to wear my EDC in an OWB holster. In the winter, this tends to be CC, in the summer, it tends to be OC. I live on the border of Indiana and Kentucky, both states that, with my IN LTCH, allow me to carry openly or concealed in either state. I have carried both ways in both states, and occasionally been engaged by others. Most simply ask why I carry. Others ask questions about the legality of carrying. Others thank me for carrying. I catch more grief about my OC tendencies by gun owners online than from the people around me.

Funny thing, that.
 
I carry for two reasons:

(1): Self Defense

(2): Utility (hunting and hiking).


For Utility, there are no tactics: See a snake, shoot a snake. See a rabbit, shoot a rabbit and plan dinner. See a bear, stand still, yell... and shoot if needed. Open carry is the right tool.

For self defense, surprise is an important tool in the box. I will not give up that element of advantage. Anyone carrying OC for self defense is taking one advantage (openly advertising "don't tread on me") but at the same time giving advantage to someone who might not be swayed by that, and in fact you might simply be a target for being shot "before you get to say howdy" by a determined assailant (who might just want to steal your handgun). I'd prefer to be invisible, and to fade into the noise.


"Political" Open Carry is generally juvenile although in a concerted effort, as was done in Ohio, might obtain some results. Generally, it's not about defense, it's about making a statement. That's not me. I make a statement when I send $10K to the SAF every December.


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Here in Indiana we have both as long as you have a LTCH (License to Carry Handgun). I selected the CC all the time option. I personally believe that when you OC it is just asking for trouble -
1. From the general run of sheeple, who are shocked and scared
2. From the cops they call on you
and finally
3. It just says to the bad guys "SHOOT ME FIRST"
 
Small frame auto or revolver in my left front pocket, keys and pocket knife in the other pocket, it's part of getting dressed. If it prints I go on a diet.
 
Lots of good reasons for CC have been elucidated, and I agree with almost all of them. But it would like an option for OC when I am working outside.
 
I do live in such a state where I can do either, my choice. Currently we do require a Shall Issue permit to carry concealed, but there is a Bill before the legislature right now [I tried looking for a report on the status but haven't found anything yet] to make it legal to carry concelaed without permit. One is required to know if one would pass the check for a permit though. If you know you can't pass the permit check then you can't legally carry concealed at all. Since anyone who is not ineligible to keep and bear can carry concealed outside city limits, this law would open up to carry in town without formal permit.

Anyone who is not ineligible to keep and bear can open carry without permit everywhere except public and government buildings.


ETA: House Bill 304,
a logical addition to state law that gives city dwellers the same privileges as rural residents, who already can carry a concealed weapon without a permit.
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It is on the Governor's desk waiting for signature.
 
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My personal philosophy is that I would like to see open carry as a more common thing in the hope that it would desensitize the public to firearms and the people who bear them.

I bet it would even bring in tourist revenue--you know, people from liberal, highly gun restricted Europe coming here just to see for themselves how the US is awash in guns like the old west. :D
 
BigDinFL said:
And that worked 100 years ago when there was no law and order and very little population. I lived in NV, even sparser than your AZ and I don't agree on OC where CC is a better way to go.
MY opinion - you want to take it as an insult, please feel free, won't change my view. No different than those in CA a few years ago who were OCing unloaded guns - a Hey look at me attempt that did more harm than good.

Again -out hunting?, working open range with cattle? walking your dog where the illegals are crossing your property? No problem, go for it. Walking down the street holding your little kid's hand to get an ice cream? Sorry, not seeing the need for that
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OK. You don't then. Others may.

Many valid POVs being expressed, "I don't like it just because attention whoring" kinda falls short of that. Still, there is some morsel for thought in your message.
 
Both are an option - my state permit is to carry - I prefer discrete CC and I am happy that an unintended showing of my CC handgun has no legal consequence in my state.
 
I live in a state where not only do we have OC and CC, but we have Constitutional Carry so even concealed doesn't have to be concealed and I don't need a permit to CC. I strap it on and mostly conceal it, but not to a point where if it prints or shows I have to worry about it, cause I don't.

I just wish I could carry to work on the base but they are more paranoid on the base then anywhere short of the county cout house maybe, and Buffalo Wild Wings of course :D
 
Florida was a leader in SHALL ISSUE law and at that time open carry was abolished except under very limited circumstances. Open carry is lawful on or in one's own property, while hunting, fishing and camping. (IIRC).
I CC in public and see no problem with anyone that would choose to carry openly, and I might be joining in on the open carry, it gets hot and humid in the Tampa area. Comfort is my only reason for open carrying.
 
Both are legal here. Most people don't OC, unless they are headed to the hills or out shooting. Most people OC with rifles in their truck racks, but CC when out and about on the town.

I would guess most people are CCing, unless it is fall, then most people are OCing! Hunting season, you know!

BTW, no permit needed to CC or OC, here in the wild west!
 
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