IDPA Points Down Rule Change goes from 1/2 sec to 1 sec... Thoughts?

I just watched Vickers, with Hackathorn, on their opinions as to why IDPA needs to go to 1 point = 1 second. Just shook my head.

Maybe yet another sport will emerge as a result. That would not be all bad.
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This is not meant as a criticism. How does this drive the creation of a new sport? It just makes accuracy more of a factor. Either you will shoot better or shoot more. At most wouldn't it drive you more towards USPSA where more shooting is common?

As to the age differential, as a hack shooter I am fine with that. While I haven't seen such to that great an extent whats wrong with a shooting sport with more average folk in it?
 
This is not meant as a criticism. How does this drive the creation of a new sport? It just makes accuracy more of a factor. Either you will shoot better or shoot more. At most wouldn't it drive you more towards USPSA where more shooting is common?

As to the age differential, as a hack shooter I am fine with that. While I haven't seen such to that great an extent whats wrong with a shooting sport with more average folk in it?
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IDPA, ICORE, 3Gun, Steel Challenge were all created due to perceived failings of IPSC (and later USPSA) to address their customers wants and desires. Accuracy already is a factor in USPSA and was a bit more emphasized in IDPA. Taking it to 1s/point make accuracy the factor and makes speed a side note. Speed IS a tactic and getting hits ON TARGET at speed is a huge benefit in a "real world" encounter. But, alas, this is a game, and not even close to real world, even though IDPA is attempting to dress the rule change in those clothes.

USPSA is more competitive and faster, and you do shoot more ammo. We have some competitors locally who shoot IDPA for those reasons. A 70 round match costs them half what a 150 round match costs. For the few times a year casual shooter, IDPA is a greater draw, and I get that.

My comment on the age gap was more of a wisdom thing. I might be old fashioned, but the old farts have a deeper understanding of the history and a 20 something squadded with a 60 something stands to learn something. Drive the youth away, not only may it kill the sport long term, it will kill the passing of wisdom and knowledge that the old farts gained in the same way.

So if IDPA is too slow and USPSA is too equipment driven, IDPA just opened the door for the creation of a middle lane. Which again, might be good.
 
IDPA, ICORE, 3Gun, Steel Challenge were all created due to perceived failings of IPSC
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Yes, but since then, we have had IDSA, TSA, PASS, GADPA, and now ASI to address the perceived failings of IDPA.
GADPA seems to be doing OK on a regional basis and ASI is too new to tell, but the others have sunk without a trace.
We had CSA (a forced acronym, the MD's other game is Civil War reenactment) that was starting out good, but its home range has closed and there is no other convenient venue.

I have shot a couple of other local outlaw matches that were worth the ammo, but I do not see them spreading. This is what I call the Balkanization of the sport.

I do not foresee anybody throwing the time and money into a middle of the road game and getting the publicity hat Bill W. did with IDPA.
There is just not enough difference to split, for one thing.
 
If Chris Costa put his name to it, it would outstrip IDPA and USPSA. It is all about marketing, not the actual game, when it comes to getting things going.

I am actually working on a new shooting sport. When someone (or a corporation) with big money, savvy marketing and a goal sets a path, it is pretty amazing what can occur. Also, when the "training for a gunfight" monikers are set aside, the non-endemic sponsors are willing to be involved.

One of the better marketing minds in the shooting sports told USPSA and IDPA that dropping the "gunfighter" association would help. While I am glad that did not occur, the path does seem clear that a pure target shooting sport can have a great impact bringing in new shooters, some of which will then transfer over to other competition sports. That has been the goal of Rimfire Challenge since the inception.
 
If the method of scoring is to be changed, how about incorporating zero score for not neutralizing the target?
Like at least one hit in the highest scoring zone, or at least two in the second to highest, for example.
Or maybe bonus points for hitting a score zone representing the spine or some other hard to hit part of the target.
As long as the scoring is being changed, why not get serious about it?
Might even be the foundation of that new sport mentioned?
 
I would like to see the sport Colion Noir tried to introduce to the world with his Athletic Shooting. The idea of competing against others in both athletic ability and speed sounds like a lot of fun, and doesn't carry the baggage of any previous sport. I watched his YT vids with guys like Pincus and Haley. The thing that differentiates it from IDPA and USPSA is you cannot advance without the appropriate number of hits.
 
Seems like there are so many people who want to change IDPA.
They may or may not like the Joyce Scoring System, but they want to change SOMETHING. Maybe so they can win.

I am content with it as is and suggest you fold such notions into The Next Big Match.

Contact MarkCO, he says he has one in the works.

I hardly know who Chris Costa is, maybe this generation's Larry Vickers... or Jeff Cooper. OK, get his autograph on your target and go with it.
 
Jim, the sport I am working on is new, but nothing like IDPA, and heck, I am not even eligible to compete in it. ;)
 
Still, new is good, we can only hope it sells.
I don't know how or why you would write yourself out of the rules, though.
 
It is for amatuer shooters only...so the winners will not be the people you are currently seeing wearing jerseys and placing high in matches. I am pretty excited about it and what it will do for the sport, but completely off the IDPA topic, so I will stop there.
 
Well, start a new thread as soon as you are willing to describe.

I agree, those guys with the laundry list of vendors on their shirts just kind of set my teeth on edge, But if somebody wanted to sponsor me and put their patch on my vest next to the Team Mediocre logo, I would probably change my tune. I wonder why I haven't heard from anybody on that.
 
I guess the change bodes well for my slow/accurate shooting style with my revolver.

But it's not going to change the way I play or whether or not I attend the matches. I'm still going to go and have fun; just as always.
 
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