Elvishead, I had a similar experience a few weeks ago. I was visiting friends in Tucson, decided to do some shooting with them, and walked into a local WalMart. No 9mm, no .38 spec. So, I asked (not expecting an affirmative answer) if they had any 357 and the clerk said "sure" and pointed to some Remington 125 gr. 357. I bought a box and fired it that afternoon. Wow, that stuff is hot! But fun to shoot! At 15 yards it was shooting about 3" lower than the 158 gr. 38 special I'd been shooting from my 686. However, every round was going into the same hole so I didn't care.