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A ludicrous notion borne by too many viewings of Fast and Furious.

Let's think this through. Here is what one needs to successfully do it:

1) Know where and when the truck will be
2) Hijack it
3) Drive said, very conspicuous vehicle, to some warehouse somewhere

At any point a whole multitude of things can go wrong. It's a totally absurd notion, even if somebody tried it the chances of getting away with it are very close to 0%. This idea is nonsense.
 
Most hijacked trucks are the result of teamwork between warehouse people and driver. Sometimes the driver is left out of the loop. But as a rule, the hijackers know exactly what is on the truck and where the desired item is located inside.

WalMart guns are brought by UPS, and must be signed for. Not the WalMart truck.

Random hijacking of a WalMart truck would be hilarious. Going through the Bycycles, Diapers, Bottled water, Charcoal, Ice Melt, Motor oil, etc to try to find the ammo.
 
very conspicuous vehicle,
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What is so conspicuous about another 18 wheeler going down the road? Most folks have NO idea what the placards mean. THAT would be the easiest part to do...hijacking the truck and possibly doing away with the driver would be the Murphy Law part.

I was driving in Wyoming one time following a semi that had a certain placard. this was before cell phones and when Cb radios were a must. Got the driver on the radio and asked about her placard....turns out she was carrying spent nuclear fuel rods to a dump somewhere..........just a plain truck going down the road. Ammo trucks today would be as non-descript
 
Let's think this through. Here is what one needs to successfully do it:

1) Know where and when the truck will be
2) Hijack it
3) Drive said, very conspicuous vehicle, to some warehouse somewhere

At any point a whole multitude of things can go wrong
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I often read about crimes that I wouldnt have a clue on how to pull off or even get the information I would need to make a plan. But someone does figure out how to do the crime and some get away with it.
 
What is so conspicuous about another 18 wheeler going down the road?
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This is:

"Suspect last seen driving 18 wheeler going down the road" :)

Not the most ideal of getaway vehicles.
I often read about crimes that I wouldnt have a clue on how to pull off or even get the information I would need to make a plan. But someone does figure out how to do the crime and some get away with it.
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They do sometimes. The fact is most criminals are stupid, certainly I'm positive I'm smarter than the average one, and I think that in the grand scheme of things this would be quite a difficult crime to commit. Beyond the difficulty committing it, the relatively low reward, it would also gain attention from other groups like the ATF. It's just a terrible target for a criminal.
 
But what about criminal types that have watched Breaking Bad? You know, the drug heist scenes where the semi is stopped along a deserted stretch of highway. Also, my wife and I keep thinking about the military weapons (automatics too) stolen from Chicago freight yards in the late sixties. To this day, I don't know if the criminals were ever apprehended.
 
A whole lot of Semi's are tracked by their companies GPS system so the crooks would have to be cognisant of that and know how to disable the system.
 
A whole lot of Semi's are tracked by their companies GPS system so the crooks would have to be cognisant of that and know how to disable the system.
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I was supposed to put in a sky light in South Carolina once. After waiting 2 days for the truck with the sky light I went home. The truck was finally found about six months later in Tennessee.
 
A long time ago when I loaded trucks for a living, I opened a LTL(less than truckload) to load four pallets. Just a common carrier that took a load every day from my company. It was chock full of boxes with little orange diamonds on them. Ammo destined for a base on the other side of town. I was surprised how much there was and lack of security of government purchased ammo. The driver which I knew well watched my every move. We joked about if he remembered how many pallets there were and how easy it would be to lose one at one of his stops. He had nothing to worry about with me. He was nervous as heck. He told me he hates hauling ammo and did it a few times a month. Easy target if you ask me.
 
I saw a show once on the History Channel, I think, or maybe Speed, and they talked about how the USAF moved nuclear components about in un-marked 18-wheelers.
 
Ammo is big, heavy and not really worth big money. Now, a truckload of pharma, say those little blue Viagra tablets - worth millions. $8/pill vs $1/bullet = easy choice and your wife and/or your girlfriend will thank you. :D
 
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Would be difficult to "fence" stolen ammo with traceable lot numbers....every dealer & gun shop would be alerted to keep an eye out. Suppose the creative thief could repackaged it.
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Yes, but I can't even remember the last time SG Ammo had 5.45x39 on the web site. What used to be dirt-ball cheap import would be valuable now, and I sure can't read the Russian on the side. That could repackage a lot easier than cigarettes, and people smuggle those.
 
Capitalism, baby.

It would have to make more sense (financial and cop-heat-wise) for criminal organization (X) to find and hijack said Walmart ammo truck than it would be to send a hundred flunkies out to buy the ammo in the store.

Ammo is not illegal. It is (right now) scarce, so I expect that if you are a gang-banger in Chicago you are probably paying a stiff premium for your 9mm. But that is only because someone had to go buy it legally and is now charging you the standard criminal surcharge.

Is that enough to engineer a truck-hijack operation? Doubtful, since Walmart will have another truck next week and you can send flunkie #2 in to buy the stuff.

There is a big difference between scarce and illegal. That is where the big money is made, and where criminal organizations make their money.
 
My favorite LGS is only about 6 blocks from the local UPS hub. There is a brown truck that pulls up almost every day and they carry in several handtruck loads of guns and ammo.

It wouldn't take too much advance scouting to figure out which truck, hijack that truck and take it to a different location and off load the guns and ammo. It wouldn't be a big haul, but if you got lucky and did it on the right day you could get a lot.

You'd probably have to be quick as I wouldn't be surprised if their trucks aren't equipped with GPS tracking and someone would probably notice a truck off course and notify the police.
 
I believe there is a requirement that HAZMAT shippers have GPS on their trucks. At least trucks registered in the US anyway....

Stuff has been "falling off the truck" for a long time. IF there were a market for black market ammo, it would fall off the truck, too....

How much, and how often would depend on how lucrative a market there was...
 
I know of a small gun range, that also has a gun store, that recently had two orders of ammo valued at $25,000 each go missing in transit. Not a highjacking just never made it past one of the handling points when UPS had custody of it.
 
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