I was called a "future serial Killer" today
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Excellent response, Russell. DC's right, if you hadn't said anything, you'd have been "branded."
Instead, you came back with a calm, intelligent response. It sounds to me like you probably embarrassed her and made her realize how out of line she was. Way to stand up for yourself.
Instead, you came back with a calm, intelligent response. It sounds to me like you probably embarrassed her and made her realize how out of line she was. Way to stand up for yourself.
Good work, don't be snide or snappy. Being impolite or flip will only confirm in their mind that you are a firecracker. Be sure to tell them that it is WRONG to harm another human being (except in self-defense). If possible invite the person to go and see or do some shooting. Let them handle the firearm in a safe environment. I've seen a couple of non-shooters get the light bulb turning on in their head after they handle a (empty) firearm. Suddenly they realize that it is not the firearm that is the moral agent, it is the person behind it.
We have all ready been branded.
We are the unwashed.
A slight against us is no foul because we are the new niggers.
Rosie said so:
"I honestly think - and I am not an expert on the amendments - I think the only people in this nation who should be allowed to own guns are police officers. I don't care if you want to
hunt, I don't care if you think it's your right. I say 'sorry'. It is 1999, we have had enough as a nation. You are not allowed to own a gun and if you do own a gun, I think you should go to prison."
We are the unwashed.
A slight against us is no foul because we are the new niggers.
Rosie said so:
"I honestly think - and I am not an expert on the amendments - I think the only people in this nation who should be allowed to own guns are police officers. I don't care if you want to
hunt, I don't care if you think it's your right. I say 'sorry'. It is 1999, we have had enough as a nation. You are not allowed to own a gun and if you do own a gun, I think you should go to prison."
As the others have said, Well Done.
These people need to be put down immediately.
Silence would have only emboldened her or her compatriots. Your response will make them
a little quieter as they don't like confrontation. They're at their best when facing passivity.
Something akin to the bully picking on a kid until he fights back.
These people need to be put down immediately.
Silence would have only emboldened her or her compatriots. Your response will make them
a little quieter as they don't like confrontation. They're at their best when facing passivity.
Something akin to the bully picking on a kid until he fights back.
Excellent job! Now carry it to the next level. I like what George Hill mentioned and Slowpoke. Get a consultation with an attorney about possible slander action or federal action for the school not providing a non-hostile environment. THEN go to the school administration and file the complaint. If they take it seriously, no problem, if they don't then you let them know that you have already been in contact with a legal representative and a federal investigative agency and that if decisive corrective measures are not taken within 24 hours you will exercise all legal remedies. In some states it is a misdemeanor to falsely accuse someone of committing a felony. In any case she has created a hostile environment for you, much as is found in sexual harrassment cases.
Russell,
You did *so* much better than I would have done. Really great comeback for the environment where you were. Good job.
Me? I probably would have given my wrist watch a dramatic frightened stare and plaintively cried, "Oh no! How soon do you think I'll start?"
Then laughed and walked away.
I like your response better.
You did *so* much better than I would have done. Really great comeback for the environment where you were. Good job.
Me? I probably would have given my wrist watch a dramatic frightened stare and plaintively cried, "Oh no! How soon do you think I'll start?"
Then laughed and walked away.
I like your response better.
Excellent Job Russell, Knowledge is power. Learn all you can (and this is a great place to start) and refute superficial attitudes implanted by the media. Teach! My son will be starting HS next year. He loves to shoot and knows the rules. He also knows how to disarm an armed opponent. I agree with the earlier response "is she cute"!!! Go for it dude. Life's too short not to have fun. Print up some of the articles posted here and let her read them. Circulate them at school, and if she is cute "go for it dude"!!!!
Guys I think legal action would be inappropriate in this case. I'm not sure how serious she was, and I graduate in 2 weeks anyway, I'll never have to see her again. I think taking legal action would be overly vindictive
Also if I did take action against her, she would probably make some false accusations against me based on over hearing previous conversations. For example I went to the range with another student in that class, we talked to each other about it in class. I offerred to install an mag extension on his 870 for him. While this is perfectly legal, she could say that I'm "manufacturing illegal weapons". On the day the confrontation with the girl occurred, school security had found an "explosive device" (M-80 firecracker) and brought it into the building. I was talking with some other students and said what a bunch of idiots school security is and that they probably couldn't handle a real situation and that if someone really wanted to do somthing they wouldn't be able to stop it. After I said it I realized that statement could be interpreted by some paranoid freak to be a threat. Yes I know I should keep my mouth shut. In short if I did take action against her, it could cause some trouble for me.
Also if I did take action against her, she would probably make some false accusations against me based on over hearing previous conversations. For example I went to the range with another student in that class, we talked to each other about it in class. I offerred to install an mag extension on his 870 for him. While this is perfectly legal, she could say that I'm "manufacturing illegal weapons". On the day the confrontation with the girl occurred, school security had found an "explosive device" (M-80 firecracker) and brought it into the building. I was talking with some other students and said what a bunch of idiots school security is and that they probably couldn't handle a real situation and that if someone really wanted to do somthing they wouldn't be able to stop it. After I said it I realized that statement could be interpreted by some paranoid freak to be a threat. Yes I know I should keep my mouth shut. In short if I did take action against her, it could cause some trouble for me.
Byron Quick
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Russell,
You responded very well. However, I would reconsider making a formal complaint. These types of complaints are one of the weapons being fashioned for use against us by the "politically correct." One of the best methods to stymie this is to turn it around on them.
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Byron Quick
You responded very well. However, I would reconsider making a formal complaint. These types of complaints are one of the weapons being fashioned for use against us by the "politically correct." One of the best methods to stymie this is to turn it around on them.
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Byron Quick
Why are we giving Russel advice? No offense, guys, but it sounds like we should be emulating him.
I agree that legal action is a bad idea, by the way. Wouldn't you think it would be silly for her to sue him if he made some offhand comment about victimhood or letting those around you be hurt? Well, it works both ways. Suing over someone's offhand remark is a little silly and would turn the whole school against him.
I agree that legal action is a bad idea, by the way. Wouldn't you think it would be silly for her to sue him if he made some offhand comment about victimhood or letting those around you be hurt? Well, it works both ways. Suing over someone's offhand remark is a little silly and would turn the whole school against him.
Russell,
I'd like to add my compliments on your mature handling of a difficult situation to the others in this thread.
The best way to handle someone so prejudiced and bigoted is in a calm manner and ask them to support and defend their accusations. Reducing yourself to her level or getting angry does nothing except reinforce the false message she is putting out there.
No matter what you do, you will probably not change her mind, but you will be presenting the best possible image to others, especially those who might be in the "undecided" category. You may in fact change them into gun-owners rights supporters. And you will be presented an excellent role model for others.
You won this exchange and you did in a very mature and responsible manner.
Frosty
I'd like to add my compliments on your mature handling of a difficult situation to the others in this thread.
The best way to handle someone so prejudiced and bigoted is in a calm manner and ask them to support and defend their accusations. Reducing yourself to her level or getting angry does nothing except reinforce the false message she is putting out there.
No matter what you do, you will probably not change her mind, but you will be presenting the best possible image to others, especially those who might be in the "undecided" category. You may in fact change them into gun-owners rights supporters. And you will be presented an excellent role model for others.
You won this exchange and you did in a very mature and responsible manner.
Frosty
Seizing the opportunity to make a concise and logical protest to her unwarranted attack while pointing out that it was hateful and without any merit was exactly the response that was required, and should be practiced by us all whenever such idiocy reveals itself.
Simply ignoring it allows it to stand. Standing long and hard and berating her does no good as you look like the attacker after 10 seconds. But one good hard defensive verbal shove of righeous indignance can be very powerful, indeed, and saves you unnecessary breath, as well.
You did well. Let us all continue to do as such.
L.P.
Simply ignoring it allows it to stand. Standing long and hard and berating her does no good as you look like the attacker after 10 seconds. But one good hard defensive verbal shove of righeous indignance can be very powerful, indeed, and saves you unnecessary breath, as well.
You did well. Let us all continue to do as such.
L.P.
Good job Russell! You made your point then let it lie. Had you perused it farther you would probably be labeled a dangerous mentally unbalanced individual. We’d be reading in the newspapers and hearing on national news how you were suspended and are undergoing psychiatric treatment for terrorizing a young innocent girl. What ever you do DON’T draw a pistol on a piece of paper and point it at anyoneone. The last student that did that got suspended for a year. And they think we’re the ones with a problem! 
Great comeback by the way!
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Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!
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Great comeback by the way!
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Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!
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Sorry Russell, my advice was coming from someone who has a tendency to overreact to authority figures. I arrested a vice principle for theft when I was in high school, a police officer lost her job over a theft complaint, and I had the director of safety and security arrested and was going to sue the company I worked for. I enjoy stepping on people who throw their authority around because they can (power trip), if they are stupid they do it indescriminately and sometimes do it when they shouldn't. Guess I like making waves.