blackriderhank
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My old 870 will always be my HD. Simple, reliable and easy to tear down and clean.
I WANT ONE - Kel-Tec KSG
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It looks cool on the utube videos. But it is an akward size and shape. Lends itself to not being accurate because of the length and shape. It is not an auto "which I prefer" and it's not that easy to shoot. I would rather have a mossberg 930 or a Benelli or FN, in auto. Plus they are far more accurate. I know a guy who works at Keltec who has one. He even told me that they had to use them for their 3 gun shooting team, "of course". But he would have rather have kept his 930, which is a no no if you work for them of course.
It's way overpriced and 14 rounds vs 9 or 10 in auto, isn't enopugh of a trade off considering you can load more in the other ones while still firing. Let's see how they hold up over time. They are around for sale if you look around enough. It is strictlly an HD weapon, and to me at least, if you can't shoot something with 5-10 rounds, then the other 4, aren't going to help much. Plus shen someone is shooting at you, are you going to remember to flip the switch?
The idea that the auto can just blast 8 or 9 rounds without taking your gun off target to pump it, makes all the difference. I guess I just don't like pump anything also. They were supposed to be auto at first, but the ATF warned them that it would be classified a destructive device.Now that would have been cool. Loose the switch and go semi auto.
It's way overpriced and 14 rounds vs 9 or 10 in auto, isn't enopugh of a trade off considering you can load more in the other ones while still firing. Let's see how they hold up over time. They are around for sale if you look around enough. It is strictlly an HD weapon, and to me at least, if you can't shoot something with 5-10 rounds, then the other 4, aren't going to help much. Plus shen someone is shooting at you, are you going to remember to flip the switch?
The idea that the auto can just blast 8 or 9 rounds without taking your gun off target to pump it, makes all the difference. I guess I just don't like pump anything also. They were supposed to be auto at first, but the ATF warned them that it would be classified a destructive device.Now that would have been cool. Loose the switch and go semi auto.
One of factors responsible for the 870 becoming the ne plus ultra of cop shotguns, were the thousands of shooters grew up using those guns in the field. When you get into a busy dove flyway with an 870 you can manipulate and/or top off the gun without thinking about it- and that 'autopilot' familiarity is priceless in any defensive or duty firearm. A lot of those guys came into LE during the 60's-80's.
Add the fact that the 870 was pretty much THE 12 gauge pump in a lot of people's minds--including LE and Corrections Administrators--and the result is a decades-long place at the top of the heap.
I like the 870, but if I could replace it in my outfit's squad cars? I probably go with an auto.
Add the fact that the 870 was pretty much THE 12 gauge pump in a lot of people's minds--including LE and Corrections Administrators--and the result is a decades-long place at the top of the heap.
I like the 870, but if I could replace it in my outfit's squad cars? I probably go with an auto.
Let's all be honest, it looks pretty cool and would make a fun toy. If we only owned practical guns, for which we had a legitimate need, we would have much smaller collections.
IMHO it would make a good defensive shotgun. Reloading is most likely a bit slow and I don't know if you can load a single shells at a time. However, the thing does hold 2 more rounds than a fully loaded 870 with a side saddle and you don't have to reload to use the second half of the ammo. (Plus, I can't think of too many real-life situations that 14rds of buckshot wouldn't be sufficient.)
The price is going to be high on any gun that is new and in high demand. After about a year or two, when supply has caught up to demand, the price will usually come down. Also, it gives them time to get any unknown flaws worked out of the design.
Overall, I think it is really a cool gun. The initial price IMHO will keep it from many people's collections. (I predict biggest volume sales will be at around the $699-$749 price point, if possible.)
We'll just have to wait and see about this one.
IMHO it would make a good defensive shotgun. Reloading is most likely a bit slow and I don't know if you can load a single shells at a time. However, the thing does hold 2 more rounds than a fully loaded 870 with a side saddle and you don't have to reload to use the second half of the ammo. (Plus, I can't think of too many real-life situations that 14rds of buckshot wouldn't be sufficient.)
The price is going to be high on any gun that is new and in high demand. After about a year or two, when supply has caught up to demand, the price will usually come down. Also, it gives them time to get any unknown flaws worked out of the design.
Overall, I think it is really a cool gun. The initial price IMHO will keep it from many people's collections. (I predict biggest volume sales will be at around the $699-$749 price point, if possible.)
We'll just have to wait and see about this one.
GoOfY-FoOt
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Considering the fact, that Kel-tec's PMR-30 is constantly being sold for an average of 200% of dealer cost, ($500-$550) I would expect the KSG to be at or very near the $1,000 mark, at least initially...
zombieslayer
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Goofy-Foot I'm located right near you. Grew up in Center Hill. Now living in lake county.
Anyhow, I really want one of these when the prices settle. Seems like a pretty potent package for home defense. Not that I really NEED another gun, but it looks like a lot of fun.
Anyhow, I really want one of these when the prices settle. Seems like a pretty potent package for home defense. Not that I really NEED another gun, but it looks like a lot of fun.
ksg
Yep, that is the bottom line.
You get the thing...Ok....you load it up with buckshot. Then what do you do with it? Unless you are going to war, it is good for making noise and little else. (For making noise, you might as well use birdshot - it's cheaper).
I know, I know.....there's the self/home defense-shoot the bad guy thing. With any luck at all, you'll go through life without ever having to do that. And Zombies....There are no Zombies outside of video games.
It is scary looking, though.
Pete
Yep, that is the bottom line.
You get the thing...Ok....you load it up with buckshot. Then what do you do with it? Unless you are going to war, it is good for making noise and little else. (For making noise, you might as well use birdshot - it's cheaper).
I know, I know.....there's the self/home defense-shoot the bad guy thing. With any luck at all, you'll go through life without ever having to do that. And Zombies....There are no Zombies outside of video games.
It is scary looking, though.
Pete
zombieslayer
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Who mentioned zombies?
Technosavant
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Oh, quite.
I wasn't trying to come off as a negative person, I like the idea of the KSG and I wouldn't mind having one. Thing is, if you're buying your first defensive shotgun, I don't know that the KSG is the best choice. Once it's proven, it may well be worthy, but there's others out there that can get the job done at a much happier price tag.
We'll have to see when it actually shows up in volume and if Kel-Tec can meet demand anytime soon. Based on what I've seen of the PMR-30 and RFB, I'm not holding my breath; they've got some fun products that are in great demand and they aren't even close to satisfying the market on the ones already available.
GoOfY-FoOt
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Ha-ha...I grew up in Lake Co. (Leesburg) and now I live here...
You are the anti-me, or vice-versa...
Beentown71
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At their pace I will pick one up when Ruger or Smith bring it out....
Beentown
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