flintforever
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great post
i TRIED THE NEW RUGER OLD ARMY TODAY
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2nd ROA Arrived
ROA number two, Stainless was delivered by FedEx today. She was made in 1979. The Old Gal has had a few range trips. She has some surface scratches that some Flex and a little work should remove. Then she'll get a good polish job and in a couple of weeks, she's out to the range.
ROA number two, Stainless was delivered by FedEx today. She was made in 1979. The Old Gal has had a few range trips. She has some surface scratches that some Flex and a little work should remove. Then she'll get a good polish job and in a couple of weeks, she's out to the range.
flintforever
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Looks good to me:
I thinking on the same line a SS ROA added to the blue one I got.I may Waite until I get down south in N.C. and hit a few gun shows unless a super deal comes along
I thinking on the same line a SS ROA added to the blue one I got.I may Waite until I get down south in N.C. and hit a few gun shows unless a super deal comes along
madcratebuilder
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I've tried the filler gig twice, didn't do much for me other than make things more complicated. I just use enough powder that the ball is seated and call it good.
If I'm shooting for groups I well use a loading devise and measure each powder charge, seat each ball to the same depth. Shoots about the same, minute of bottle(plastic).
goffer@earthlink.net
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Ruger OA
30 rds yesterday at gravel pit. No audience. Best grouping 9 inches at 25 yards two handed grip. Using Pyrodex 35 grains. Was using 40 grains but bent the loading lever trying to load the ball. Straightened the lever out with a steel seat mount that had just the right access hole to give me leverage to bend back to orininal shape. (Well almost original) No problem loading using the lever yesterday. I have a separate loader, but do not like fiddling with the assembly for the cylinder. Except for cleaning of course.
Like the manual says "Ruger will take all you can get in her!" I can't hit much but I aim to find out how much GOEX FFFG she will take soon as I can shoot up all this Pyrodex.
Last load could have used a cleaning of the nipple passages and the barrel evidently, some bad flyers and misfires on about 2 or 3 rounds that had to be reprimed then detonated OK. Brings to mind possibility of fire-in-the-hole when recharging, I aim to be more careful next session, really new to BP and don't know anymore than I can retain from reading in the manuals, a Cabela's cheat sheet, and this Forum, in short, just enough to be dangerous, that is why I shoot alone, for the time being. Expensive though I think buying all the tailored made components which I do, for now.
I am a Ruger fan. A clarification. The 9 inch group was the "BEST" group out of the 30 rds. I couldn't say how far out was the worst round because it did not hit my 2 foot piece of cardboard.
30 rds yesterday at gravel pit. No audience. Best grouping 9 inches at 25 yards two handed grip. Using Pyrodex 35 grains. Was using 40 grains but bent the loading lever trying to load the ball. Straightened the lever out with a steel seat mount that had just the right access hole to give me leverage to bend back to orininal shape. (Well almost original) No problem loading using the lever yesterday. I have a separate loader, but do not like fiddling with the assembly for the cylinder. Except for cleaning of course.
Like the manual says "Ruger will take all you can get in her!" I can't hit much but I aim to find out how much GOEX FFFG she will take soon as I can shoot up all this Pyrodex.
Last load could have used a cleaning of the nipple passages and the barrel evidently, some bad flyers and misfires on about 2 or 3 rounds that had to be reprimed then detonated OK. Brings to mind possibility of fire-in-the-hole when recharging, I aim to be more careful next session, really new to BP and don't know anymore than I can retain from reading in the manuals, a Cabela's cheat sheet, and this Forum, in short, just enough to be dangerous, that is why I shoot alone, for the time being. Expensive though I think buying all the tailored made components which I do, for now.
I am a Ruger fan. A clarification. The 9 inch group was the "BEST" group out of the 30 rds. I couldn't say how far out was the worst round because it did not hit my 2 foot piece of cardboard.
goffer@earthlink.net
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SS ROA
I am picking up my SS Ruger OA on lay-away today. It has fixed sights. Any experience with this set up, shoot high at 25? low? or about right? The revolver does not look to have been fired, paid a premium price for her though, cannot say exactly how much, my wife may read this forum.
I am picking up my SS Ruger OA on lay-away today. It has fixed sights. Any experience with this set up, shoot high at 25? low? or about right? The revolver does not look to have been fired, paid a premium price for her though, cannot say exactly how much, my wife may read this forum.
ROA Prices
$560. and $528. is what mine cost me. There's a pair of stainless currently at $1,250. on Gun Broker, so I can't whine too much about what I paid. A couple have even started around $600.+
http://www.gunbroker.com/Ruger-Old-Army/Browse.aspx
I keep a link on my favorates just to watch the prices. As usual it's whatever the buyer is willing to spend.
$560. and $528. is what mine cost me. There's a pair of stainless currently at $1,250. on Gun Broker, so I can't whine too much about what I paid. A couple have even started around $600.+
http://www.gunbroker.com/Ruger-Old-Army/Browse.aspx
I keep a link on my favorates just to watch the prices. As usual it's whatever the buyer is willing to spend.
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robhof
I've had one (ROA) for over 5yrs and just love it to death. I've burned Lbs of b/p and subs through it and it still shoots better than I can. The fixed sight can be adjusted by the powder load; start at 20gr and wad or filler so you can seat the ball or bullet w/o bottoming the loading lever, there's a sweet spot of load that'll get you to POA at 25 yds or as close as you need to be consistent. My ROA does best with round balls 457's shaved in. As for powder; when I can get real black, I get 4f for my flint primer and I've used it for nice hot loads in the ROA, 40 gr in the Ruger cylinder and 45 in my Classicballistix cylinders.
I've had one (ROA) for over 5yrs and just love it to death. I've burned Lbs of b/p and subs through it and it still shoots better than I can. The fixed sight can be adjusted by the powder load; start at 20gr and wad or filler so you can seat the ball or bullet w/o bottoming the loading lever, there's a sweet spot of load that'll get you to POA at 25 yds or as close as you need to be consistent. My ROA does best with round balls 457's shaved in. As for powder; when I can get real black, I get 4f for my flint primer and I've used it for nice hot loads in the ROA, 40 gr in the Ruger cylinder and 45 in my Classicballistix cylinders.
Using Replicas on the range
Good point R.O.
I do believe I will work my way around to doing just that.
Replicas are of course for shooting versus some originals. If some guy bought a Ruger Old Army back in 1972 and never got around to firing it, that's fine with me. It just means that it has not been subjected to any abuse and should be good to go. I've been quite lucky in all my recent purchase that are used, the previous owners took great care of them.
I've bought several used replicas lately and had some common replacement parts sitting in the den before they even got here, just in case some parts needed replacement. The Lady who owned the Uberti Walker I bought said it had been fired and cleaned a few times, but they didn't have a nipple wrench. When I got it I popped it apart and the nipples came out just fine and the rest of the gun was in great shape. Now I have a few spare parts laying around. If I ever decided to sell it, I'll throw them in on the deal.
I was looking at an original Colt Pocket Navy for around $3,000. and an 1851 Original Colt Navy made in 1861, starting at $1,500. that were in remarkable shape. So if I bought it and it were in shape, I'd be tempted to put a few light charged rounds through it just for the heck of it. I've seen some originals that I would not of course trust. We are not talking about a $300,00.00 Paterson or something. So heck I'd even fire an original if the opportunity arose, I'd love to fire a 149 year old weapon, with all due caution of course.
Good point R.O.
I do believe I will work my way around to doing just that.Replicas are of course for shooting versus some originals. If some guy bought a Ruger Old Army back in 1972 and never got around to firing it, that's fine with me. It just means that it has not been subjected to any abuse and should be good to go. I've been quite lucky in all my recent purchase that are used, the previous owners took great care of them.
I've bought several used replicas lately and had some common replacement parts sitting in the den before they even got here, just in case some parts needed replacement. The Lady who owned the Uberti Walker I bought said it had been fired and cleaned a few times, but they didn't have a nipple wrench. When I got it I popped it apart and the nipples came out just fine and the rest of the gun was in great shape. Now I have a few spare parts laying around. If I ever decided to sell it, I'll throw them in on the deal.
I was looking at an original Colt Pocket Navy for around $3,000. and an 1851 Original Colt Navy made in 1861, starting at $1,500. that were in remarkable shape. So if I bought it and it were in shape, I'd be tempted to put a few light charged rounds through it just for the heck of it. I've seen some originals that I would not of course trust. We are not talking about a $300,00.00 Paterson or something. So heck I'd even fire an original if the opportunity arose, I'd love to fire a 149 year old weapon, with all due caution of course.
hi slowhand, I agree firing the original one can be very nostalgic, I had a henry -martini in 450/577 made in 1882 ,and a swedish rolling block, used them for many years ,the old timers are also used here,strange is that you never see anyone using an antique black powder handgun over here,only rifles,I think it has a lot to do with the different gun culture ,by that I mean the great difference in regards to owning guns,in Europe and the United States ,
Guns in America versus Europe. The Gun Culture
R.O.
Handguns in Europe are of course "Taboo". The masses have long ago had that drummed into their brains by the Media and Education System. We have the same sort of mentality here in this country but are holding our ground. when politicians in this country talk about the "Gun Culture", it's never very pleasant, if you are a gun owner. I don't have 24/7 Secret Service protection or a Private Security Escort Service, so I am on my own.
America was founded only a few centries ago. She was carved from a wilderness where settlers had to defend themselves from highwaymen, the odd bandit or two and of course the Indian Wars. You've no doubt seen all the exported Hollywood Films that in most cases got it wrong but every now and then a bit of reality and truth creeps in. I was raised to believe that a man has a responsibility to defend himself and his family. I don't carry a gun looking for trouble, I carry one in case trouble should find me.
We are not all of course a bunch of "Cowboys" but there are still those of us believe that we have a right to defend ourselves and our homes. We have a legal system with a revolving door when it comes to procescuting criminals and our police were long ago relieved of any legal recriminations when they don't arrived in a timely manner when called to prevent or stop a crime in progress.
England, Australia and Canada are three excellent examples of countries where gun owners act like they just woke up one morning and poof their rights to own a weapon just vanished. They should have seen it coming when the government starts regulating firearms and identifying owners.
Our politicians have been forced to recognize the reality that some of us are not going to sit around and watch this happen here. We have made a lot of progress when it comes to issuing permits for gun owners to carry concealed weapons and Castle Laws have been written defining under what circumstances a home owner may defend his castle or automobile against an intruder. There are of course cities like Chicago or Washington D.C. where politicians have created Gun Free Zones or more apt Killing Fields where predators may roam at will until the Police get there. Politicians still fight tooth and nail to resist any attempts to afford citizens the right to protect themselves by passing "Common Sense Laws", which the criminals ignore and disarming even more legal, law abiding people.
Sorry about the "rant" but I have a bit of attitude, along with a few million other people who live in this country when it comes to our American Gun Culture. Some us know the differences between us and Europe and understand the "Why" of it. Sure I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't necessary to keep a gun around to protect ourselves but human nature is never going to change and it's always going to be necessary. "Just In Case" as we like to say.
R.O.
Handguns in Europe are of course "Taboo". The masses have long ago had that drummed into their brains by the Media and Education System. We have the same sort of mentality here in this country but are holding our ground. when politicians in this country talk about the "Gun Culture", it's never very pleasant, if you are a gun owner. I don't have 24/7 Secret Service protection or a Private Security Escort Service, so I am on my own.
America was founded only a few centries ago. She was carved from a wilderness where settlers had to defend themselves from highwaymen, the odd bandit or two and of course the Indian Wars. You've no doubt seen all the exported Hollywood Films that in most cases got it wrong but every now and then a bit of reality and truth creeps in. I was raised to believe that a man has a responsibility to defend himself and his family. I don't carry a gun looking for trouble, I carry one in case trouble should find me.
We are not all of course a bunch of "Cowboys" but there are still those of us believe that we have a right to defend ourselves and our homes. We have a legal system with a revolving door when it comes to procescuting criminals and our police were long ago relieved of any legal recriminations when they don't arrived in a timely manner when called to prevent or stop a crime in progress.
England, Australia and Canada are three excellent examples of countries where gun owners act like they just woke up one morning and poof their rights to own a weapon just vanished. They should have seen it coming when the government starts regulating firearms and identifying owners.
Our politicians have been forced to recognize the reality that some of us are not going to sit around and watch this happen here. We have made a lot of progress when it comes to issuing permits for gun owners to carry concealed weapons and Castle Laws have been written defining under what circumstances a home owner may defend his castle or automobile against an intruder. There are of course cities like Chicago or Washington D.C. where politicians have created Gun Free Zones or more apt Killing Fields where predators may roam at will until the Police get there. Politicians still fight tooth and nail to resist any attempts to afford citizens the right to protect themselves by passing "Common Sense Laws", which the criminals ignore and disarming even more legal, law abiding people.
Sorry about the "rant" but I have a bit of attitude, along with a few million other people who live in this country when it comes to our American Gun Culture. Some us know the differences between us and Europe and understand the "Why" of it. Sure I wish we lived in a society where it wasn't necessary to keep a gun around to protect ourselves but human nature is never going to change and it's always going to be necessary. "Just In Case" as we like to say.
goffer@earthlink.net
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Non-Adj Sight ROA
Thanks to those that took the time to relate their experience with the subject firearm. I soon will put to use that information.
Another issue I have with the Ruger is the jamming from exploded caps. I have been using CCI no. 11. Is this a common use among Ruger OA owners, the size I mean.
Also I am wondering if anyone knows the size of the thread for the nipple on the Ruger? I tried Ruger Co. for some spare nipples and they told me that stock was depleted and none available from Ruger anymore.
Thanks to those that took the time to relate their experience with the subject firearm. I soon will put to use that information.
Another issue I have with the Ruger is the jamming from exploded caps. I have been using CCI no. 11. Is this a common use among Ruger OA owners, the size I mean.
Also I am wondering if anyone knows the size of the thread for the nipple on the Ruger? I tried Ruger Co. for some spare nipples and they told me that stock was depleted and none available from Ruger anymore.
ROA Parts
Information on ROA parts and Nipple Caps refer to following on subject firearm
Brownells
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=1894/k=/t=S/mfg=/Products/Ruger-Old-Army-Parts
Nipple Caps... Read through it... It's a bit long but loads of good stuff.
http://www.curtrich.com/frontiersmen2.html
Information on ROA parts and Nipple Caps refer to following on subject firearm
Brownells
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=1894/k=/t=S/mfg=/Products/Ruger-Old-Army-Parts
Nipple Caps... Read through it... It's a bit long but loads of good stuff.
http://www.curtrich.com/frontiersmen2.html
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Ruger Old Army nipples have a 12x28 thread. The Treso part number is 11-50-12. They (the Treso brand) are available from Track of the Wolf under catalog number PRA-A. Brownell's catalog number for steel OEM nipples is 780-000-414; however, the status is listed as "discontinued by factory", so I don't know if you can get them or not. The Tresos are better nipples anyway. They will take Remington No. 11 caps.
goffer@earthlink.net
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Ruger OA
Thanks to you all for the great info on Ruger OA spares, maintenance and loading procedures. Priceless IMHO
Thanks to you all for the great info on Ruger OA spares, maintenance and loading procedures. Priceless IMHO