I think primer and ammo shortage close to an end!

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tiberius10721

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went to local sporting goods store today here in central california and the owner of the store just recieved a ton o handgun ammo and reloading supplies.he did order this stuff months ago ,but i think its a good sign that he got this shipment in.our local walmart has been getting ammo shipments everyday but people have been showing up everymorning at 7 oclock and buying it all up.the point to this thread is I think the ammo is starting to flow!to the staff that will move or merge this thread Im just trying to get the word out so some people maybe will stop mass buying so prices dont go up!oh by the way I bought 1000 primers today for only 34 dollars so to people that are going to gunbroker and paying 80 dollars for a 1000 do yourself and everybody else a favor and cut it out!
 
well I think im right because if all the ammo was going to the military these shipments wouldnt be making it to the local gunstore.Maybe on these forums we need to remind everybody to calm down and stop the mass buying.I think in the future there might be an over production of ammo and reloading components.Im sure there are thousands of people with more ammo in their homes than shopowners have in their stores.
 
Yup, I think it will end shortly. There appears to be ammo available right now in my area, it's just that alot of it is quite overpriced. Even if I didn't reload I woud never spend $25+ on a box of .45's.

As soon as the big bulk suppliers like Wally World start being able to keep the stuff on their shelves then we'll see the price drive back down to reasonable levels.
 
45 Shooter, I hope your right. I have enough primers and powder to get through the next couple months, but after that, I start getting into my "Reserve" Supplies. I really don't want to do that. I've gotten bit by the 3 gun bug and really don't want to miss a shoot. That is way too much fun. But I don't want to go broke playing at the range either.
 
my local walmart had 20 boxes of 40 cal and 20 boxes of 9mm the only problem is around 730 in the morning a guy came in and bought it all up!so obviously the ammo is flowing especially if its making it way all the way down here to turlock ca!relax people president obama wont try to take your guns and ammo away until his second term!you still have 3 yrs and 200 days left to stockpile it!:D
 
If there is law or tax passed about ammo. I would have plenty to last me and also, ammo would be the new gold. The value may be so high it would be like owning gold. There are a lot of people with the same ideas out there.
 
I hope your'e right. I visited my local Ma & Pa reloading shop yesterday... They ALWAYS have primers, and at a great price too. Yesterday was a different story though. They were completely out :eek: The owner said he had no real time frame on when they would be getting more in. The scary part is that they have been enforcing a pretty strict purchase limit of 500 per customer / per week for the last few months, so it's not like someone just came in and bought them all up. The well is just plain dry at the moment :confused:
 
If there is law or tax passed about ammo. I would have plenty to last me and also, ammo would be the new gold. The value may be so high it would be like owning gold. There are a lot of people with the same ideas out there.
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Yep... I tend to call those people "hoarders" :rolleyes:
 
The value may be so high it would be like owning gold. There are a lot of people with the same ideas out there.
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's unlikely that handgun ammo will ever become extremely valuable unless there is an outright ban on it altogether and existing stocks were grandfathered (unlikely). Like whiskey or beer it's too cheap and easy to make, and if the price were to remain high or the components scarce, then entrepreneurs would undoubtedly begin making it to undercut the unnecessarily high pricing.

Bullets can be cast almost for free out of wheel weights. They can also be melted down and reused if it came down to it. Casings can be reused many times over. Blackpower can be used in most wheelgun cartridges and can be made at home; I imagine smokeless powder could be made with a bit of work as well. It's possible that primers could be reused with some effort.

And on top of it all, the political situation does not appear to allow doing anything regarding ammunition in the near future, thanks to some conservative and obviously enlightened southern Democrats.

Believing that ammo is an investment only drives the short term price high and annoys those who have an immediate need for it.
 
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In less than a year there are going to be some very uphappy people out there, sitting on thousands of primers worth no more than the $24.95 Midway wants for them.
 
I have no doubt the dems will go after our gun rights but its not going to happen all at the same time .If they gain more seats in the house and senate and if obama gets re-elected and has the oppurtunity to appoint some leftist judges then thats when the tough ammo and gun laws will come.So people we still have a couple years left to hoard!The only thing that might bring strict gun laws all at once will be if some high profile politician like obama gets shot and I dont think thats going to happen.Another columbine scenario could end our gun rights I pray something like that doesnt happen!Ive noticed now the news agencies are focusing on every little domestic shooting they can but ignore gang violence as always!anyways thats my rant for today!:D
 
Ammo is always a good investment

But if you are buying it in bulk, thinking that at some later date you can turn it into significantly more cash value thay you paid for it, I think you will find disappointment more often than success.

It does amaze me that case lots of ammo that I bought as little as a decade ago (or even less) are now bringing up to triple (or more) what I paid for them. But even so, I'm not selling! Two reasons, basically, first, replacing them would cost me any profit I realize, and seond, if I don't replace them, then I am out the ammo!

Yes, the current situation is a royal pain for those of us who have been buying regularly for decades, and is worse than the primer scare a few years back, because then, the price stayed basically stable, it was only availability that was difficult.

Today, we have ammo anywhere from half again to triple what it was just a few years ago, and scarce! To me, that is worse, because my income has nowhere near kept pace.

But, this too shall pass. Just be patient, and remember that the worried guy down the block that has a single gun that he shoots a couple times a year, but bought 6 cases of ball ammo ( in a caliber he doesn't even have, just in case) will eventually find somthing he wants, or needs more than that ammo. And when he does, he will sell it for what ever he can get for it. And that likely ain't going to be premium price!
 
New Hampshire Walmarts have BARE shelfs for most stores, the sporting goods shops are not much better. Riley's N.H.'s largest has limited ammo and they may get a shipment one day and be out the next. The only stuff they HAD for a few days was American eagle 9mm for $13.95 and some 45 American eagle and some Blazer 40 cal. They had some Federal Hi-Shok 40cal 180gr for most of 1 day and the next day they got some Federal Hi_shok 40cal 155gr in stock but I am sure it didn't last the day, people have come in and bought several box's of Hi-shok at $23 per box for the federal.

Riley's has been cheaper than walmart on some ammo, nice to see a gunshop that isn't taking advantage. Reloading supplies, bullets in most handgun calibers are almost non-exsistant, some powders are also. Popular rifle same deal. I see no relief here in sight.
 
But if you are buying it in bulk, thinking that at some later date you can turn it into significantly more cash value thay you paid for it, I think you will find disappointment more often than success.
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True, but that's where the magic of cost averaging plays it's roll.

I bought in bulk last year, I buy in bulk this year, and with any luck I'll buy in bulk next year and shoot till my heart's content :D
 
I've bought ammo not as a means to make money, but as a hedge against inflation. Same reason I'm buying silver, with the Federal Reserve creating all this money out of nothing. That strategy has paid off well. Most of my stockpile of .22 rimfire is from back before the 20% increase in price. Quite a bit of my 7.62x39 is from back when it was $85-120 per 1k.

The bonus is that the only ammo I have been buying during all this has been .22 rimfire when I find it for the right price. 22 rimfire has not shot up as some other calibers have. Instead of high prices and shortages, we have just had shortages in regards to 22 rimfire.

If you are looking to make money you will be disappointed. Beating inflation is what you should be looking at.
 
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