I swear....

In the final analysis....

...I suppose I am just whining because I could have used that frame. I think I will resolve never to bring this issue up again.

I know there are plenty of folks on the forum who will be eternally grateful to read that.
 
Zullo74 wrote:
Bill Atkins wrote
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However, as we all know, the National Firearms Act (NFA) does not recognize muzzle loading black powder weapons nor reproductions thereof to be classified as "firearms".
Wrong. It was the GCA '68 that gave that definition.

I am not wrong according to some sources Zullo. See this excerpt from Wikipedia.....

"The United States Supreme Court, in deciding the case of Haynes v. United States in favor of the defendant, effectively gutted the National Firearms Act of 1934. As one could possess an NFA firearm and choose not to register it, and not face prosecution due to Fifth Amendment protections, the Act was unenforceable. To deal with this, Congress rewrote the Act to make registration of existing firearms impossible except by the government (previously, an existing firearm could be registered by any citizen). In addition to fixing the defect identified in Haynes, the revision tightened definitions of the firearms regulated by the Act, as well as incorporating a new category of firearm, the Destructive Device, which was first regulated in the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968. This revision is known as the National Firearms Act of 1968 to differentiate it from the NFA of 1934, which is a different (and now void) law."

Then there's this excerpt from THE BATFE's OWN WEBSITE that says.....

"ATF Home
Firearms
National Firearms Act (NFA)
History of the National Firearms Act

The NFA was originally enacted in 1934. Similar to the current NFA, the original Act imposed a tax on the making and transfer of firearms defined by the Act, as well as a special (occupational) tax on persons and entities engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing, and dealing in NFA firearms."


Notice how the BATFE calls the originally enacted 1934 NFA "Similar to the current NFA". BATFE of course means the Title II 1968 revision of the National Firearms Act that some people call "The Gun Control Act of 1968" or some call it the "GCA" or...some call it...."The NFA"....or some call it "Title II NFA" or some call it...."The National Firearms Act of 1968" (as Wikipedia called it above).

It is significant and noteworthy that BATFE currently uses the phrase "NFA" (National Firearms Act) firearm or device to include any firearm or device covered by the 1968 title II revision of the old 1934 NFA.

And the National Firearms Act of 1968 was what I was talking about and meant. You will note I did not say the National Firearms Act of "1934". I just said "the National Firearms Act (NFA)". I figured most people here would know I meant the National Firearms Act of 1968, because that is the one that exempts muzzleloaders as being "firearms" and as you can see from reading at the BATFE's own website, that they still currently uses the phrase "NFA firearms or devices" to describe firearms and devices which fall into the title II 1968 revision of the "original" 1934 National Firearms Act (NFA).

So if the law is only known as the Gun Control Act of 1968 (as you suppose), or by the initials "G.C.A.", then why does the BATFE currently still call these firearms and devices "NFA" items and not "GCA" items?

Essentially both you and I are both correct. But as you can see, some people including Wikipedia and the BATFE itself, currently use the term...."NFA" (National Firearms Act) (meaning as title II amended in 1968) and some people use the term.... "GCA" (Gun Control Act of 1968).

Toe-may-toe or Toe-mah-toe, either is correct and means the same thing.


But one thing you are definitely incorrect on is....there is no "t" in "Akins". :D



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In the final analysis....

It's okay Doc,most of us on here share your sentiments.This topic can be very frustrating,and every now and then we need to vent.Besides,no matter what,you are always entertaining.LOL:)
 
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