I swear....

Gosh you're right Doc. He could have had a complete brasser for that price instead of just a frame.

I know e bay won't allow complete firearms nor any part that aids the firearm to shoot (what the heck does that mean?? ANY part of a firearm aids it in shooting, yet they allow some parts and not others, crazy). However, as we all know, the National Firearms Act (NFA) does not recognize muzzle loading black powder weapons nor reproductions thereof to be classified as "firearms".

Soooo, if Ebay won't allow "firearms" or any part that aids a "firearm" to shoot, to be advertised at their site, and since muzzleloaders aren't "firearms" under the law, then why can't complete muzzleloaders be sold on Ebay according to their very own rules?

Or like most anti-gunners do they just make up their own rules as they go along in spite of contradicting what their own "rules" say regarding "firearms"? Lol.



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I think I'd list it on the Japanese fleabay site...at least the grips and grip frame...they'd likely bring a whole lot more. The Japanese love to buy grips...or so I'm told.

Well Doc...I'd get to takin' pictures and sell all the jun...I mean high-priced quality merchandise to some unsuspecting....I mean connoisseur for a good profit so I's could get something else I wanted.

They're likely going to hang it on the wall inside a cheesy cracker barrel anyway.
 
Maybe I'll bust a few down and sell em!

There are lots of folks doing just that. Check out the Hawkens and Renegades. Several of the stock descriptions read "For the barrel, see my other listing" or "Barrel to be auctioned after stock auction ends" and a couple of bolder guys say "Win this auction on my stock and get a free gift along with your stock!".
 
EBays moto: Supply and demand.
It appears that seller is about to laugh all the way to his bank. It's the only place I know where one can get rich by doing so little to earn it. Just one step down from winning the lottery Doc. I think you should get involved with EBay selling parts. You could change your current EBay name to one more suitable for your new enterprise. Like Doc Hoys Parts & Pieces or Doc Hoys "Jim Dandy" Stuff. If you choose to go down that road to new riches and delegating all your free time to EBay with hopes to achieve your new endeavor. I support your decision 100% If you choose to stay right here on TFLF with many who enjoy your words of Witt and knowledge. That deserves a % of my support too. Just what percentage I don't know as I haven't given it much thought Doc. I just assumed you would be here forever. (Locked IN!!) so to speak. Yep!! :D
 
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Bill Atkins wrote
However, as we all know, the National Firearms Act (NFA) does not recognize muzzle loading black powder weapons nor reproductions thereof to be classified as "firearms".

Wrong. It was the GCA '68 that gave that definition.
 
Ahhh . . . c'mon Doc . . . you know one man's junk is another man's treasure! :D

As Forrest Gump's mother said . . . "You can't fix stupid!".

I will say this though . . . you can't fault the seller. Over the years, I've had a number of long arms that I was going to sell but couldn't get the price for them that they should have brought. (I'm talking some general antique and vintage long arms). Instead, I parted them out and made more money on the parts than on the complete gun had I sold it intact. Go figure . . .

As someone stated . for that price, the guy could have purchased a complete brasser. :eek:
 
Bill - eBay won't allow ammunition to be sold as well but I've seen lots of "antique cartridges" pass through without a hitch. Go figure . . .

I've sold and purchased on that site for years but am not always happy with the way they do things . . . .
 
I contacted an E bay seller a couple of weeks ago,about a Renegade rifle stock. I wanted to know why he wasn't selling the entire rifle,since it wasn't classified as a firearm. He wrote back,and said that E bay is based out of CA,and they are VERY anti-gun.He also said a few more things I won't repeat here.:eek: He said he would sell me the barrel through Paypal,but COULD NOT do it through E-bay.I just couldn't see paying his asking prices,as I could find an entire rifle for less,elsewhere. Sellers on E-bay are basically hamstrung to do anything else.It's a sad,sad situation we are in lads. We need to stick together on stuff like this,or we will surely see an end to the lifestyle we so much enjoy!!:confused::mad::eek::rolleyes::(
 
He said he would sell me the barrel through Paypal,but COULD NOT do it through E-bay.

Don't know. I DO know however, he was a very upset E-bay seller. I didn't bother getting into it with him,as I said I wasn't going to pay his prices.
 
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My frustration

I have been doing eBay since about 1995. Obviously I don't make a business out of it, but when I need something I generally check eBay first. Today I got my 622nd positive feedback and I am still at 100%. I actually used that on a resume once.

When it started eBay was truly a venue for individuals to sell things to other individuals. Then it got out of hand.

I used to collect Britains soldiers. There are price guides just as there are price guides for black powder revolvers.

Then over a period of a few years the sets started proliferating on eBay. And the same phenomenon that is driving the price of that junk frame drove the price of the sets through the roof. I can't call myself a serious toy soldier collector just as I can't really call myself a serious BP revolver collector. But it sure was frustrating to see the price of these sets bid up by fools who don't know diddly. All of a sudden the price guides were useless. The best way to find the value of a soldier set was to check eBay and see what numbskulls were paying for them. And, yes, openned sets were going for higher prices than one might pay to an online seller for a brand new set plus shipping.

So a used brass frame goes for 125.00 plus 16.00 shipping when you can buy a new pistol for 179.00. and no shipping because the order is more than 150.00. Maybe the bidder knows something I don't know. Maybe he has a barrel and cylinder and just wants to finish the pistol. Maybe there is something special about the frame that is beyond me. On the other hand maybe he is just another of the blithering idiots who are attracted to eBay and who are beginning to be attracted to Gunbroker who just push the bid button without even the slightest effort at knowing the value of what they are bidding for.

Just one of the things that urks me.
 
Hey...

Don't think I didn't go down into the shop and pull out about four boxes of parts, Sandman.

Makes you want to buy an 1851 Brass Navy and sell the barrel, cylinder, and frame in about three different eBay autions. Then take the bids and go buy two more.

Okay....I am off the soapbox for now.
 
This phenomenon seems to happen at any auction or public sale in the real world or cyberspace. Anyone that goes to these sales has seen tools, guns, household items, lawn mowers, etc sell for more than the price of new. I've even witnessed real estate go for considerably more than the market value.

It's amazing to those of us who have the not so "common sense" to educate ourselves before we make a purchase.
 
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