I know I know, another hypothetical question

Well, if I am shot with a certain firearm and three days, or three weeks, later I die from infection, complications, disease caused by that gunshot wound. Then I would put that in the tally of the "killed with "X" firearm.
Going with the A-bomb analogy, if those deaths were prematurely caused by cancers, radiation, or other diseases cased from contamination, then yes I would consider those people casualties of The Bomb.

Also, bringing artillery, mortars, etc. into the discussion strays from the intent of the OP. More deaths have been caused by disease, but that is not the issue here. Which is whether the M1 Garand or AK have been used to kill more people. Or taking that a small step further, which small arm has been used to end more lives.

If talking specific makes/models, we can pretty much assume that it is a military arm, issued in huge numbers, and having a long enough service life to make a significant impact on warfare.
Also we must consider the advances in medical care given to wounded soldiers, as weapons have evoled into more destructive devices, so too has there been strides made in the treatment of wounds suffered by such weapons.

Sure, there is no way to really keep score, but we can surmise many theories to discuss and make educated guesses on the answers. Then it is just a matter of deciding how specific of a description we need. Does "Mauser" quality as an answer considering all the different models, variations, copies?
I don't think so. SO if we say "Mauser 98", does that include all the different 98 models or German only? Gewehr 98 only? do we include the Kar.98s?

I earlier suggested the British Brown Bess musket as a contender, both because of it's long service, and the relatively poor medical care of the day. But this weapon too went though many iterations through it's century of service.

It's a big bag of worms indeed.
 
They have a pretty good idea how many Garands were made

They might be able to narrow the AK to the nearest ten million.

Might........
 
I'm with Jo6pak....the Brown Bess probably beats out all other contenders in this race. Mausers would be a distant second.
 
Statistically speaking... And we all know how statistic work.

I think the closest you can come would be the number of X weapons manufactured, the number of armies using the weapon at the time and then figure the number of conflict each of those armies have been involved in.

You will never get an exact number, but maybe you could extrapolate from them the answer you are looking for, or a close proximity.
 
lets see, the M1 Garand saw combat in WW II, Korea, and Viet Nam. Anywhere else?

Taking the casualty figures for those areas where, and when the M1 Garand was in use, and filtering them extensively, including using the formula for % caused by arty, machine guns, etc., you could come up with a really, really rough number. Its not simple, but its reasonably straightforward.

For the AK-47 it gets much murkier. Actual wars the AK has been in could be rough figured the way we could for the Garand, but the AK has also been in nearly every brushfire conflict, tribal warfare, ethnic cleansing, and terrorist attacks that while numbers killed in total are available, determining what percentage was actually done by rifle fire is essentially a wild guess.

I wonder how they came up with that 16.5 million figure...?
 
Kilimanjaro is right. Artillery killed more people in WWI and WWII than any infantry weapon. My bet would be on the Russians main field gun. I believe it was known as the F22, a 76mm divisional gun.

Also note: a few years ago I say a "trick" poll - they asked people to name the 10 largest WW II battles, by combatants involved. Most westerners think of D-Day, the Bulge, etc. The trick is all 10 were on the eastern front and involved Germany vs. Russian soldiers.
 
lets see, the M1 Garand saw combat in WW II, Korea, and Viet Nam. Anywhere else?

World War II
Korean War
1948 Arab–Israeli War
Hukbalahap Rebellion
First Indochina War
Suez Crisis
Cuban Revolution
Vietnam War
Cambodian Civil War
Angolan Civil War
Northern Ireland Troubles

So what we are seeing here is that the Garand has a very limited history and by Vietnam was not being used in large numbers.

The AK47 was used in...

Dozens of countries and virtually every conflict beginning with Korea including everything where the Garand was used but WWII, and in African, Asian, and Middle Eastern conflicts, often used on both sides of the battle.

Yeah, gotta go with the AK47.
 
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I don't think it's going to be the Garand. Let's not forget, that the Garand isn't the only rifle/carbine used in WWII or subsequent wars of that era. It's not like the US didn't have full-auto carbines which were almost as effective as the AK in "killing people" - Tommy gun, grease gun, BAR, 1919, etc.

The AK has surpasses all other military rifles/carbines in terms of life span and proliferation than any other format. It's been in service since 1949 (65 years); and new ones are still being made and used.
 
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The Lee Enfield has a longer life span than the AK47, and is still in use with some Canadian park rangers.

I would've thought the Lee Enfield would have as many kills to it as the K98.

The M1 Garand would definitely not have the most kills, my guess would be on the AK47.
 
I would've thought the Lee Enfield would have as many kills to it as the K98.

Nah, not even close, I would think. While the Lee Enfield/SMLE served the Empire & Commonwealth well, and for a long time, the 98k fought more enemies (including the Russians, twice), and I'm confident that if there was a way to get the actual numbers, would be higher.

If you include all the Mauser variants (or even just the model 98 variants) sold and used worldwide, I think its not even close.

Britian never marketed the SMLE to the world the way Mauser did the 98. Likewise the US Garand vs the Soviet AK 47. The US armed itself and some of its allies with the Garand, the Soviets armed everyone in the world that they could.
 
Two more cents; AKs more kills than the M1 rifle. But the unmentioned winner is the 7.62X54. It killed many Germans, Russians, Chinese, Koreans, US, and many others. And the 7.62X54's work is still growing today. I think the AK will have to slaughter many more millions to overtake the old Russian round.Macabre
 
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The .32ACP was used to assassinate Arch Duke Ferdinand, which triggered WW1, an estimated 16 million and directly led to WW2, which caused another estimated 60 million casualties plus the 5 million killed in Nazi death camps.

Granted that may be a stretch, but it "can be linked" to the deaths of 80+ million deaths.

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I suspect that the Mosin-Nagant is a strong contender for the most casualties. It saw service in both world wars (in particular the bloodbath of the eastern front), and according to wikipedia it has served in some capacity in almost every war of significance during the 20th century. Certainly the AK wins among "modern" rifles, but the Mosin has a 50 year head start on it.
 
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