I just decided. I need a 10mm revolver
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Beretta686
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I too can't understand the point of putting autoloader rounds into a revolver.
I love the 10mm and think it's an amazing cartridge. But the reason I do, is because it will let you shoot like a .357 magnum, but from an autoloader with a 15-round magazine.
Getting 10mm in a revolver gives you all the 10mm problems (cost & availability) plus the need for moon clips. All while still leaving you with the limits of a revolver, which is what the 10mm is all about getting you way from.
If a 10mm wheelgun makes you happy, that's great. But it would be much easier just to get a .357 magnum (which I believe is a better cartridge anyway) and not have the 10mm issues.
I love the 10mm and think it's an amazing cartridge. But the reason I do, is because it will let you shoot like a .357 magnum, but from an autoloader with a 15-round magazine.
Getting 10mm in a revolver gives you all the 10mm problems (cost & availability) plus the need for moon clips. All while still leaving you with the limits of a revolver, which is what the 10mm is all about getting you way from.
If a 10mm wheelgun makes you happy, that's great. But it would be much easier just to get a .357 magnum (which I believe is a better cartridge anyway) and not have the 10mm issues.
Magnum Wheel Man
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well from a reloading perspective, it makes sense... the 10 mm is a sweet cartridge in the revolver, & even tactikooly... the moon clips make for very quick reloads of the revolver... guys like JM much prefer them to conventional speed loaders...
same moon clips work fine for the 40 or the 10 ( or the 10 mag in my case
) I like the RIMZ plastic clips, they don't require any special tools...
I do have a tendency to like to adjust the loads of the longer cases, to avoid the "carbon ring" issue ( like shooting too much 38 special in a 357 mag chamber ) but can shoot all 3 in my gun, so long as I keep the chamber clean... plus with the right bullet & powder selection, acceptable accuracy is possible with the shorter cartridges... my gun also currently wears fiber optic front & rear sights
same moon clips work fine for the 40 or the 10 ( or the 10 mag in my case
) I like the RIMZ plastic clips, they don't require any special tools... I do have a tendency to like to adjust the loads of the longer cases, to avoid the "carbon ring" issue ( like shooting too much 38 special in a 357 mag chamber ) but can shoot all 3 in my gun, so long as I keep the chamber clean... plus with the right bullet & powder selection, acceptable accuracy is possible with the shorter cartridges... my gun also currently wears fiber optic front & rear sights
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Beretta686
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Please pardon my ignorance, but what's a "10mm Magnum"?
Is it just an elongated 10mm case?
Is it just an elongated 10mm case?
Magnum Wheel Man
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I have an AMT Automag 4 in 10 mm Magnum... it's just like the difference between 38 special & 357 Mag
Magnum Wheel Man
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BART... you are probably correct on the plastic clips popping out on the 45's too easy for self defense... though I've not played with the Rimz clips with my 45... I guess I notice that, with the 10 Mag a little, because of the length of the case... but 10 mm & 40 S&W, I think I'd be fine with those for self defense... the 10 & 40 have lighter bullets, than the 45, which may help them feel more secure in the clips... the 40 being shorter & lighter, I feel the plastic clips would serve well there, for sure, at least with the clips I have
Bill Akins
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With all the firearm projects and modifications I get involved in (and sometimes take critical heat for doing), I certainly would be the last one to criticize the OP for wanting a 10mm revolver. However, I would offer some things to think about.
Be it 9mm, .38 special, .357, .44 mag, 10mm or 10mm mag, none of those will penetrate "bulletproof" vests/armor of a criminal. Most all wearable armor will stop all those cartridges. This is to say, if velocity and penetration are the subject. If velocity and penetration is not the subject, and simply self defense and good ole brute knockdown power is the subject, then if a semi-auto cartridge is wanted in a revolver, one could just use the .45 acp in a good used S&W model 1917 revolver that could be had much less expensively, or the later model 25 S&W that fires the same .45 acp in half or full moon clips,....either one. Good used versions of both of those would probably be less expensive to procure than a new 10mm revolver.
You can use half or full moon clips, and also use the same ammo in your .45 1911 (if you have one). The knockdown power of .45 acp is legendary and sufficient unless the criminal is wearing body armor, and if he is, 10mm won't affect him either.
.45 acp brass will always be more reasonably priced and available for reloading than 10mm or 10mm magnum, simply because of the amount of time .45 acp has been used, and the large amount of guns that have been chambered for it. The same cannot be said for 10mm brass. Not saying you shouldn't get a 10mm revolver, just saying there are other options (S&W 1917 and model 25 revolvers) that are less expensive and will do just as good a job (arguably better) as a defensive revolver against soft targets.
Ultimately the important thing is to make yourself happy and please yourself regardless of what others may think. But it doesn't hurt to think about options.
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Be it 9mm, .38 special, .357, .44 mag, 10mm or 10mm mag, none of those will penetrate "bulletproof" vests/armor of a criminal. Most all wearable armor will stop all those cartridges. This is to say, if velocity and penetration are the subject. If velocity and penetration is not the subject, and simply self defense and good ole brute knockdown power is the subject, then if a semi-auto cartridge is wanted in a revolver, one could just use the .45 acp in a good used S&W model 1917 revolver that could be had much less expensively, or the later model 25 S&W that fires the same .45 acp in half or full moon clips,....either one. Good used versions of both of those would probably be less expensive to procure than a new 10mm revolver.
You can use half or full moon clips, and also use the same ammo in your .45 1911 (if you have one). The knockdown power of .45 acp is legendary and sufficient unless the criminal is wearing body armor, and if he is, 10mm won't affect him either.
.45 acp brass will always be more reasonably priced and available for reloading than 10mm or 10mm magnum, simply because of the amount of time .45 acp has been used, and the large amount of guns that have been chambered for it. The same cannot be said for 10mm brass. Not saying you shouldn't get a 10mm revolver, just saying there are other options (S&W 1917 and model 25 revolvers) that are less expensive and will do just as good a job (arguably better) as a defensive revolver against soft targets.
Ultimately the important thing is to make yourself happy and please yourself regardless of what others may think. But it doesn't hurt to think about options.
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Your argument with regard to available brass and the procurement of said brass is a fine argument and it makes a lot of sense generally speaking, but it becomes a VERY hollow argument with no teeth whatsoever when we are talking about a moon-clipped revolver, and actually -- even LESS when we are talking about a 10mm-chambered moon-clipped revolver that can (and will) make heavy, regular and high-volume use of .40 Smith & Wesson brass which (not by years, but on any given day and IME, nearly -EVERY- given day) is far more plentiful, cheap and easy to find for free scattered across most ranges.
Wow. I think I spit that out in one sentence. Instead of a handful of scattered sentences to be gathered up & taken home, that little rant was like, say, SIX sentences -- but all clipped together, to be picked up as one single unit, easy to find, picks up from the ground six times as fast (if you even chose to drop them there, you needn't!) and, well, you get the point.
Wow. I think I spit that out in one sentence. Instead of a handful of scattered sentences to be gathered up & taken home, that little rant was like, say, SIX sentences -- but all clipped together, to be picked up as one single unit, easy to find, picks up from the ground six times as fast (if you even chose to drop them there, you needn't!) and, well, you get the point.
Super Sneaky Steve
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I guess I could get another .45 but I've already got 5 of them.
I don't have anything in .40 cal.
I don't have anything in .40 cal.
I wanted a 10mm revolver so I found a gently used 610 for $625. It's a great shooting gun but big if you ever plan to carry it. Recoil is very soft with .40s since it is so heavy. I am also about to send a GP100 to get converted.
I stopped trying to rationalize things I want long ago. I don't care about ammo availability, power levels, reloading tables, 10mm vs .357 vs .41, what some other guy has, and so on. I want a 10mm revolver and enjoy shooting 10mm in a revolver. End of story.
Go for it.
I stopped trying to rationalize things I want long ago. I don't care about ammo availability, power levels, reloading tables, 10mm vs .357 vs .41, what some other guy has, and so on. I want a 10mm revolver and enjoy shooting 10mm in a revolver. End of story.
Go for it.
Bill Akins
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That's not a bad thing.
But are all five of your .45 acp's semi's, or do you have a .45 acp revolver too? If you do have a .45 acp revolver, instead of spending the money on a .40 cal revolver, you could spend that same money on more .45 acp ammo and trade your .40 brass for .45 acp brass, or even trade more .40 brass for less .45 acp already loaded ammo. Not trying to tell you how to spend your money, just offering a practical option.
That's not a bad thing either.
There isn't much a .40 cal can do that a .45 acp can't do.
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silvermane_1
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Super Sneaky Steve:
i say get yourself a 10mm wheelgun and a semi, that way you can have both guns for practice and SD, and don't listen to the bashers, heck i wouldn't mind having a 10mm wheelgun and semi combo myself.
i say get yourself a 10mm wheelgun and a semi, that way you can have both guns for practice and SD, and don't listen to the bashers, heck i wouldn't mind having a 10mm wheelgun and semi combo myself.