I have a bad feeling about this HCI vs TFL lawsuit

Gary H.,
Actually, the first round has already been won by El Jefe. It was through his brilliant observation of HCI's website using a well known makers image to promote their propaganda, that the first round goes to him. If you can gag back the nausea long enough to visit,(HCI) you'll notice the image is no longer there. The change is very subtle, but unmistakable. HCI has no stomach for a fight when it comes down to it.

On the other side are the Burr Bros (named for being the Burrs under Sarah's saddle), selling nothing and asking nothing in return for publishing the truth. This isn't a win lose fight at all. It's win/win for the good guys. Any time the truth is made public, there can't be any loser but the one that continues to spread lies. Even if by some small chance, HCI does manage to win in a court battle, it will cost them plenty, and NOT in terms of $$ and cents. They're (HCI and Co.) losers and liars, bullys and brats throwing a tantrum. Even PC bows to unvarnished truth. It happens a lot, you just never hear about it since it doesn't cause a stir. Big name battles always get the publicity, ya know? Look at the modern version of Molon Labe, which of course would be NUTS! While Bastogne was getting the headlines for that line, conditions in places like Foy(?) were a lot grimer and harsher. Just because a General didn't offer up immortal words, didn't squelch the determination of the other guys or change what happened there. Big battles seldom determine the outcome. It's the little battles. all added up that do. Heck, if big victories determined the whole thing we'd all be speaking Japanese after Pearl or Vietnamese after Tet.

I do agree, it is far fetched to dream that Nader would enter the fray, and didn't expect anyone to take me seriously on that, hence the LOL!. It IS possible, but highly unlikly. Odds are about the same as my winning the Ohio lottery,,,,and I don't buy lottery tickets. It does point out though the weaknesses of HCI's stance. They are after monetary gain through grants and contributions, and aren't at all interested in the making of anything safer for anyone.

Again, Viva le Bros Burr, long live El Jefe and John! Let your chests swell a bit with pride fellas. You've earned it.

[Edited by RAE on 01-15-2001 at 02:41 PM]
 
It would be difficult to defend against owning handguncontrolinc.com because it is the name of the lobbying organization, but handguncontrol.com is not, and the TFL backed site does have lots of information about handgun control on it.

It's legitimacy is obvious.
 
Ethical Darwinism

Greetings,

You folks should look at the big picture. HCI isn't above lying and their object is to subvert the constitution of the United States. Like any bully, the last thing they expect is for someone to stand up and assert his right to defense.

All is fair in war, otherwise nice guys finish last (ethical Darwinism). Does your desire to be "better" than they are outweigh your desire for victory? Do you want to get beat because we got out-tricked, out-lied, out-smarted, out-cheated?

Not me. Molon labe.

Ledbetter
 
Let's get this thing about "cybersquatting" straight. "Cybersquatting" is the act of registering a domain name without the intent of actually using the domain name; but to attempt to sell the name to an interested party at a later date. An example of this would be conservativeradio.com . When one asks for this domain name they are taken to buydomains.com . When you search for conservativeradio.com it then takes you to a window that states "The domain conservativeradio.com is already owned". There are two buttons which are labeled "info" and "request price". Upon clicking "request price" you are treated to the following:

"The minimum quoted price will be $688 US and could go up to $10,000 US. Serious inquiries only. We are only able to respond to complete and accurate requests. All information provided will be kept strictly confidential."

This is "cybersquatting". They are hoping to make a profit from their providential registering of a few words for the outrageous price of $16/year. Not bad work, if you can get it.

What our folks have done is not "cybersquatting" because they are actually publishing an informative web page.

[Edited by jimpeel on 01-15-2001 at 03:11 PM]
 
Checkout http://www.whitehouse.com (Porno Site)

(Just DON'T do it from WORK!)

If it's good enough for the WH, it's good enough for everyone else....

Edit: Just wanted to include a warning on that link, like DC did. - TBM

[Edited by TheBluesMan on 01-16-2001 at 10:53 AM]
 
I am toast.

The bad feeling I had is gone. I now understand what cybersqatting is and I understand why thats not happening in this instance. I am not sure I would want to disseminate information this way but those who say this technique may be the only way to offer some people another choice in information may be right.

I stand corrected on my point, thanks to everyone for not biting my head off.

Kc
 
Please don't ask me to post links cause I ain't got myself that smart yet.
There has been a case in Minnesota between a major railroad and a person who has their corporate logo trademarked. Seems he was using the logo before the corporataion merged to form their latest entity. This individual had a website using his federally trademarked logo. Because of the way the website operated a Federal Judge forced him to give up the website.
It might behoove your lawyers to investigate this court case. Try running a search under Bringing Now Safety First and you should get into the sites.
 
"Heck, if big victories determined the whole thing we'd all be speaking Japanese after Pearl or Vietnamese after Tet."


Right and wrong. The Japanese kicked butt at Pearl.

When TET was over, the VC AND the NVA had both had their butts kicked. Giap himself said he never understood why America didn't follow up and end the war.
 
Another thing to consider is the intent of HCI

Remember that HCI is not a commercial site. It is a political activist site. Most laws are written to protect copyright and intelectual property. I do not think that you can claim handguncontrol as intelectual property.

Folks, I think that the only thing that we need to worry about is money. To pay for the attorneys.

John/az2, or anyone who knows about this in detail, is HCI going through the ICANN process or are they going directly to court?
 
As far as I know they are threatening with a court of law. We have filed a suit against them for 1st Amendment infringement (or something like that) in a federal court.

I'm discovering just how slowly these things move along...
 
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