HOLY CARAPPPP BATMAN WE'VE STIRRED UP A HORNETS NEST (BY THE WAY Charlotte got that name because of a comment by a certain British General in the Revolutionary War). Ottergal, I apologize profusely for the slip, and by the way, Kule smilies!). To answer the other questions, click on my e-male (pun intended sorry again Ottergal)link on the post and send me an e-mail and I'll take you up on the offer(Satana,MRSMTN,SCUD & JCH). I think there is only one bar on the main street in town,(threw away my conference stuff when I got home KaMaKaZi e-mail me and I'll see what I can do)Mike Irwin, you so funny! Thanks! Bogie, I can handle a Stout but I guarantee you that a true Shiner convert would'nt get the first swallow down! To all of you, I just want to say, I had looked for shiner and pretty much gave up finding it here. I about "sh*t a brick when I did realizing that I now had something else in common with TFL members. Buy the way The Johnson brown is best served slightly above freezing. As my friend John in England would say "Krikees"! Beer is good! Even a bad beer on a hot day is good, I think this is one of God's promises to man! My wife and I spent 3 weeks with John and his wife last year in England, Scotland, and France. I made a point to try every Lager and Ale I could get my hands on. My very favorite is KilKenny from Ireland. It is in Canada and Mexico but for some reason, not in the states. All this is to say, so many beers, so little time, try them all. I have found that a lot of the Micro brewers like Johnson have some great stuff. Try them all. Ken (the kinder,gentler,SOB)! P.S. I have found that sometimes things are bigger in Texas...... I used to know a guy who would regularly "whip it out" and say "I'm from Texas"! I think he was really from Missouri but it left a lasting impression! Bless you all!