I feel so stupid...and lucky.
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Bennett Richards
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Years ago I had just finished stoning the action on a S&W M-29 44. I had the cylinder swung out and had defeated the trigger lock-out. I was continually dry firing the thing with the cylinder open. I had done this about 400 times.. Without thinking I swung the cylinder back in with the hammer cocked. I had the muzzle resting on the inside of my right thigh and after 400+ dry fires my trigger finger reflexivly tightened on the trigger... in the millisecond it took me to realize what was about to happen the 2.5 pound trigger was about to release. My left hand moved up to the weapon as the hammer fell and the firing pin caught the web between my thumb and forefinger. I sat there for about the next hour bathed in sweat, numb at how VERY close I had come to dying. I have NEVER again taken my weapons handling skills for granted.
As far as the glunks go I KNOW that if my HK is condition 1 with the safety ON it would not go off if I bobbled the piece and snagged the trigger. A dear friend and SWAT team member nearly lost his gonads when his glunk ND'ed with a trigger snag. I am too big a klutz to carry a weapon with no safety.
Ben
As far as the glunks go I KNOW that if my HK is condition 1 with the safety ON it would not go off if I bobbled the piece and snagged the trigger. A dear friend and SWAT team member nearly lost his gonads when his glunk ND'ed with a trigger snag. I am too big a klutz to carry a weapon with no safety.
Ben
I'm in the Have Hads. Hope to God I don't have any more.
Chris, glad you came out alright. Hearing what happened to you makes me glad that whenever I drop things, I'm too darn lazy to bend over, so I try to break the fall of things with my feet. So far, so good, but I don't bowl.
Chris, glad you came out alright. Hearing what happened to you makes me glad that whenever I drop things, I'm too darn lazy to bend over, so I try to break the fall of things with my feet. So far, so good, but I don't bowl.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jim Keenan:
Hi, guys,
Now, for an experiment. Will all those who have owned a gun or guns for over a year and have never had an AD chime in below. We'll see how many of us are perfect.
Jim[/quote]
only AD/ND i have had so far was with a 5"54, the firing circut pig tail sheared off the breechblock. since we had just fired 60 rounds. i just waited till it cooked off.
but i will likely have one someday, dumb luck can't last forever.
rms/pa
Hi, guys,
Now, for an experiment. Will all those who have owned a gun or guns for over a year and have never had an AD chime in below. We'll see how many of us are perfect.
Jim[/quote]
only AD/ND i have had so far was with a 5"54, the firing circut pig tail sheared off the breechblock. since we had just fired 60 rounds. i just waited till it cooked off.
but i will likely have one someday, dumb luck can't last forever.
rms/pa
I sympathize. I almost had one for an even stupider reason. After putting on my holstered 26, I wanted to doublecheck that a round was chambered. So, I drew it . . . and found my finger naturally moving towards the trigger. It was pointed in a safe direction and I caught myself before engaging the trigger but still, talk about stupid!
My brother's godfather always had kids count his toes growing up. He would first show one foot, and they would count 5 toes, later he would switch feet without the them noticing and they would count 4 toes. Always was great to watch their reaction. 
A .22 AD took a toe off when he was growing up, and the other toes filled in the space. Could only tell he was missing a toes if you looked close and counted.
Kiffster
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A .22 AD took a toe off when he was growing up, and the other toes filled in the space. Could only tell he was missing a toes if you looked close and counted.
Kiffster
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Glad I'm not the only one. In 1996, I purchased a Bulgarian AK. Loaded the 30 round mag with hollow point ammo. Put the mag in the weapon. Racked the slide and the damn thing slam fired!. And yes, my finger was no where near the trigger. Shot a holt right into the ceiling. Fortunately, I lived in the top floor of the apartment buidling and nothing was damaged, except my ceiling, ego and ears. I took the gun back the next day. I will never buy an AK. Anyway, it taught me to have even greater respect for firearm safety.
Hello everybody,
5 years and no A/D yet, knock on wood. I owe this in large part to standing next to a young man, on the firing line, who experianced an A/D. His was very similar to Rainbow 6's, only it occurred while holstering the weapon, he missed the holster and had already begun to let go of the pistola. In his attempt to regain his grip his finger went in the trigger guard and an A/D was the result.
The round went into the ground right in front of my left foot. Since then I have been super anal retentive about gun handling.
Prior to that episode I had become somewhat lax in my safe gun handling procedures, I mean, if I'm dry practicing and I just did a chamber check and I know its empty.., I know I'm not alone here as others have told me the same thing. I guess my point is, familarity breeds contempt, or at least bad habits on my part. I have since returned to treating my dry practice the same as going hot. No one down range, be sure of the target and whats beyond/behind it etc.,etc.
Prior to carrying a pistola I hunted and shot rifles and shotguns almost daily for 20+ years, never had 'em go boom when they shoulda' went click.
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5 years and no A/D yet, knock on wood. I owe this in large part to standing next to a young man, on the firing line, who experianced an A/D. His was very similar to Rainbow 6's, only it occurred while holstering the weapon, he missed the holster and had already begun to let go of the pistola. In his attempt to regain his grip his finger went in the trigger guard and an A/D was the result.
The round went into the ground right in front of my left foot. Since then I have been super anal retentive about gun handling.
Prior to that episode I had become somewhat lax in my safe gun handling procedures, I mean, if I'm dry practicing and I just did a chamber check and I know its empty.., I know I'm not alone here as others have told me the same thing. I guess my point is, familarity breeds contempt, or at least bad habits on my part. I have since returned to treating my dry practice the same as going hot. No one down range, be sure of the target and whats beyond/behind it etc.,etc.
Prior to carrying a pistola I hunted and shot rifles and shotguns almost daily for 20+ years, never had 'em go boom when they shoulda' went click.
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"There is a common thread between competition and combat shooting - only hits count" Keith Cunningham
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I am glad that you posted your accident.All so glad no one was hurt. Thank God. 
I am among the lucky In that I also had a
Accidental discharge. But only ended up shocked,embarrassed and Checking for blood on me or my wife. I had relearned the wrong way of one of the basic rules. ALWAYS CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOUR GUN IS UNLOADED!!!!
My wife and I had just returned from the range, and I was going to show her how to take Apart her pistol and clean it.
I picked it up, checked that no magazine was in the pistol and then grabbed the gun with my finger on the trigger, and BLAM a 22 long rifle went into my cleaning desk.
I left the hole there and outlined it in white as a remminder to always check 1-2-3 times before picking up a firearm.
HOPE this thread will teach even the most experienced shooters that Accidents happen.Sometime with not so lucky results.
Tony Z
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I am among the lucky In that I also had a
Accidental discharge. But only ended up shocked,embarrassed and Checking for blood on me or my wife. I had relearned the wrong way of one of the basic rules. ALWAYS CHECK TO MAKE SURE YOUR GUN IS UNLOADED!!!!
My wife and I had just returned from the range, and I was going to show her how to take Apart her pistol and clean it.
I picked it up, checked that no magazine was in the pistol and then grabbed the gun with my finger on the trigger, and BLAM a 22 long rifle went into my cleaning desk.
I left the hole there and outlined it in white as a remminder to always check 1-2-3 times before picking up a firearm.
HOPE this thread will teach even the most experienced shooters that Accidents happen.Sometime with not so lucky results.
Tony Z
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I am only 33 years old and am still in the will have column.
GLAD you are ok,
I have owned firearms for more than a year, but have not always owned a firearm.
When we were young dad had his shotguns, when we were old enough to shoot we went to hunter safety FIRST.... They drill you in safe handling.
I hunt/practice with people who used to be hunter safety instructors, so SAFETY first.
Always keep muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
Also I do not practice dry fire, I was conditioned to not touch the trigger unless ready to fire. Right? wrong? Well it is what I do, and I haven't had a AD/ND, yet.
Thanks for the post, I will have to come to the confessional when I do, but hope springs eternal.
Gfrey
GLAD you are ok,
I have owned firearms for more than a year, but have not always owned a firearm.
When we were young dad had his shotguns, when we were old enough to shoot we went to hunter safety FIRST.... They drill you in safe handling.
I hunt/practice with people who used to be hunter safety instructors, so SAFETY first.
Always keep muzzle pointed in a safe direction.
Also I do not practice dry fire, I was conditioned to not touch the trigger unless ready to fire. Right? wrong? Well it is what I do, and I haven't had a AD/ND, yet.
Thanks for the post, I will have to come to the confessional when I do, but hope springs eternal.
Gfrey
PLASTIC SIG
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Ive had 2!
Once i was shooting my pellet gun out the window, it had a scope on it. well i got a clear sight through the scope without realizing the barrel was pointed at the window sill. Aluminum window frames are very durable !
My next story is not so funny. I was visiting a friend who had a mac-11 9mm sub gun. I was admiring it after totally unloading it. I dry fired it a few times to see how the trigger was and racking the slide. (you know normal fondling). I made a trip to the bathroom. When I came back i continued my fondling. Without realizing he had reloaded it, I pulled the trigger once more. The bang almost seemed as if it didnt happen. I couldnt beleive i just F'ed up like that. The bullet hit the wall just to the left of my best friend near the floor. Ive been tought better and it should have never happened. I didnt follow rule #1.
Since then, I never pull the trigger on a gun unless i rack it back and inspect it first. Like i should have that day. I knew better, just wasnt thinking.
Not thinking, thats how most unwanted discharges happen.
Tim : )
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Why dont you get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a glock. :::Tommy Lee Jones:::
Once i was shooting my pellet gun out the window, it had a scope on it. well i got a clear sight through the scope without realizing the barrel was pointed at the window sill. Aluminum window frames are very durable !
My next story is not so funny. I was visiting a friend who had a mac-11 9mm sub gun. I was admiring it after totally unloading it. I dry fired it a few times to see how the trigger was and racking the slide. (you know normal fondling). I made a trip to the bathroom. When I came back i continued my fondling. Without realizing he had reloaded it, I pulled the trigger once more. The bang almost seemed as if it didnt happen. I couldnt beleive i just F'ed up like that. The bullet hit the wall just to the left of my best friend near the floor. Ive been tought better and it should have never happened. I didnt follow rule #1.
Since then, I never pull the trigger on a gun unless i rack it back and inspect it first. Like i should have that day. I knew better, just wasnt thinking.
Not thinking, thats how most unwanted discharges happen.
Tim : )
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Why dont you get rid of that nickel plated sissy pistol and get yourself a glock. :::Tommy Lee Jones:::
Daren Thompson
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Well I joined that club about 2 years ago. I am suprised to hear you talk about it so soon. A live round jammed in my AK and would not go off. Pulled the trigger at the range 100 times, and I did not have a cleaning rod handy to knock it out. I get home and wife is in a big hurry to got eat. I put a loaded gun in my safe(something I never do) A couple weeks later I get the AK out for cleaning rack the bolt (no round comes out) I did not visually inspect the chamber!!! I started to take it apart. I had the upper reciever off and was playing with the hammer. Click,Click,BOOM!! I was scared sh**less. 1 electric fan dead and hole in wall. I felt so stupid that I wanted to sell all my guns that weekend, felt I was to stupid to own them. Got over that quick But nobody was hurt and I learned a lot from
But nobody was hurt and I learned a lot from
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Jeff, CA
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I was on the line at a class; we were practicing the Harries flashlight technique. We were starting from the ready, rather than from the holster. On the go signal, as the gun was coming up, I got ahead of myself, and my finger went to the trigger too hard, and I touched off the shot about halfway between the ready and the point. Not too terrible, (called a "premature discharge" by the instructors), but the bottom line is, I fired the gun when I didn't intend to.
About 12 years ago I was at the range for the maiden voyage of my first revolver, a Taurus .357. It turned out that it would hang up (with the hammer back!) with .357s (worked OK w/.38s). There I was, with the hammer stuck back on a live .357 load. I wasn't sure what to do, so I had my finger on the trigger and my thumb on the hammer, trying to get it freed up. I did (much to my surprise) - and the R/O came over and told me the gun had been pointing almost straight up when it fired. He was polite but firm when he told me to get it fixed before I brought it out again, and I agreed with him.
About 12 years ago I was at the range for the maiden voyage of my first revolver, a Taurus .357. It turned out that it would hang up (with the hammer back!) with .357s (worked OK w/.38s). There I was, with the hammer stuck back on a live .357 load. I wasn't sure what to do, so I had my finger on the trigger and my thumb on the hammer, trying to get it freed up. I did (much to my surprise) - and the R/O came over and told me the gun had been pointing almost straight up when it fired. He was polite but firm when he told me to get it fixed before I brought it out again, and I agreed with him.
Ten years and no ADs unless you count this.
Was at the range with a friend who had a 38 snub-nose. With the gun pointed downrange, I drew the hammer back and before I even thought about firing...BLAM... Turns out that SA the trigger had an incredably light pull. Scared the hell out of me.
Lesson...Finger on trigger only when on target.
Robert
Was at the range with a friend who had a 38 snub-nose. With the gun pointed downrange, I drew the hammer back and before I even thought about firing...BLAM... Turns out that SA the trigger had an incredably light pull. Scared the hell out of me.
Lesson...Finger on trigger only when on target.
Robert
Cheesehead
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My turn. I was 15 or 16. Grouse hunting with my father walking an old grass logging road. We flushed some birds and both shot. As I began to walk into the brush I stepped in a grass covered hole about a foot deep. When I hit bottom - BANG! Turns out, after firing at the birds (with adrenaline in high gear) I had neglected to take my finger off the trigger and the jolt or reflex from hitting the bottom of the hole was enough to fire the shotgun. Fortunately, I had the gun aimed at the ground away from my father. He "explained" that I had errored and I've never forgotten it.
I make a point to handle at least one pistol and one long gun each day while repeating the 4 safety rules.
Glad there were no injuries and thanks for adding to our wisdom.
I make a point to handle at least one pistol and one long gun each day while repeating the 4 safety rules.
Glad there were no injuries and thanks for adding to our wisdom.
Kentucky Rifle
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Chris,
Ah, yes.
The dreaded "Pucker Factor". I know it well. I was flying through a thunderstorm once and my rearend was holding the seat so tight that I had no use for a seat belt.
Will
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Ah, yes.
The dreaded "Pucker Factor". I know it well. I was flying through a thunderstorm once and my rearend was holding the seat so tight that I had no use for a seat belt.
Will
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Mendacity is the system we live in.
I was showing a friend my Remington 870 one night, loaded with six Federal Tactical 00 rounds (empty chamber). I told him not to pump the action. Of course, he pumps the action and sends a charge of buckshot through my door and into the neighbors roof. Big f*ck up! The only injuries were to his wallet and my pride.
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