I don't BELIEVE this @#$% judge!!!

erik the bold

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From Preacherman at THR:

:barf: I don't BELIEVE this @#$% judge!!!


From Channel 3 News, Burlington, VT (http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4319605):

Rapist's Prison Sentence Triggers Outrage

Burlington, Vermont -- January 4, 2005

There was outrage Wednesday when a Vermont judge handed out a 60-day jail sentence to a man who raped a little girl many,many times over a four-year span starting when she was seven.

The judge said he no longer believes in punishment and is more concerned about rehabilitation.

Prosecutors argued that confessed child-rapist Mark Hulett, 34, of Williston deserved at least eight years behind bars for repeatedly raping a littler girl countless times starting when she was seven.

But Judge Edward Cashman disagreed explaining that he no longer believes that punishment works.

"The one message I want to get through is that anger doesn't solve anything. It just corrodes your soul," said Judge Edward Cashman speaking to a packed Burlington courtroom. Most of the on-lookers were related to a young girl who was repeatedly raped by Mark Hulett who was in court to be sentenced.

The sex abuse started when the girl was seven and ended when she was ten. Prosecutors were seeking a sentence of eight to twenty years in prison, in part, as punishment.

"Punishment is a valid purpose," Chittenden Deputy Prosecutor Nicole Andreson argued to Judge Edward Cashman.

"The state recognizes that the court may not agree or subscribe to that method of sentencing but the state does. The state thinks that it is a very important factor for the court to consider," Andreson added.

But Judge Cashman explained that he is more concerned that Hulett receive sex offender treatment as rehabilitation. But under Department of Corrections classification, Hulett is considered a low-risk for re-offense so he does not qualify for in-prison treatment.So the judge sentenced him to just 60 days in prison and then Hulett must complete sex treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence.

Judge Cashman also also revealed that he once handed down stiff sentences when he first got on the bench 25 years ago, but he no longer believes in punishment.

"I discovered it accomplishes nothing of value;it doesn't make anything better;it costs us a lot of money; we create a lot of expectation, and we feed on anger,"Cashman explained to the people in the court.

The sentence outraged the victim's family who asked not to be identified.

"I don't like it," the victim's mother,in tears, told Channel 3. "He should pay for what he did to my baby and stop it here. She's not even home with me and he can be home for all this time, and do what he did in my house," she added.

Hulett -- who had been out on bail-- was taken away to start his sentence immediately.

I say flood the court with complaints!

Chittenden District Court
32 Cherry Street, Suite 300
Burlington, VT 05401
(802) 651-1950

AND:

The Judicial Conduct Board is responsible for reviewing and investigating all complaints of misconduct or disability by Vermont judicial officers. Contact:

Christopher L. Davis, Esq.
275 College Street
P.O. Box 721
Burlington, VT 05402

I say this judge either committed misconduct or is functionally disabled. In any case, he needs to go......

Vermont Rules of Judicial Conduct

RULE 8.4 MISCONDUCT
It is professional misconduct for a lawyer to:
(a) violate or attempt to violate the Rules of Professional Conduct, knowingly
assist or induce another to do so, or do so through the acts of another;
(b) engage in a "serious crime," defined as illegal conduct involving any felony
or involving any lesser crime a necessary element of which involves interference with the
administration of justice, false swearing, intentional misrepresentation, fraud, deceit, bribery,
extortion, misappropriation, theft, or an attempt or a conspiracy or solicitation of another to
commit a "serious crime";
(c) engage in conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;
(d) engage in conduct that is prejudicial to the administration of justice;
(e) state or imply an ability to influence improperly a government agency or
official;
(f) knowingly assist a judge or judicial officer in conduct that is a violation of
applicable rules of judicial conduct or other law;
(g) discriminate against any individual because of his or her race, color, religion,
ancestry, national origin, sex, sexual orientation, place of birth or age, or against a qualified
handicapped individual, in hiring, promoting or otherwise determining the conditions of
employment of that individual; or
(h) engage in any other conduct which adversely reflects on the lawyer's fitness
to practice law.


I think there's enough here to give this guy "Das Boot"


The Vermont constitution contains two explicit
standards by which judges can be removed from office. Chapter II, § 58
provides: “Every officer of State, whether judicial or executive, shall be liable
to be impeached by the House of Representatives, either when in office or
after resignation or removal for mal-administration.”
The other standard for removing a judge from office specifies the length
of judicial tenure. Chapter II, § 36 states: “The justices of the Supreme Court
and the judges of all subordinate courts shall hold office during good behavior
for the terms for which they are appointed.”75 The phrase “hold office”
implies that if a judge behaved “badly”, removal from office would be
appropriate.

Link to "how to file a complaint" is HERE
 
This judge needs to be held accountable and brought up on charges of child endangerment when this guy does his 60 days and goes out and does it again. :mad:
 
This is absolutely insane. Pedophiles can not be rehabilitated. The only thing that will stop this guy from hurting another child is to put him in jail. Maybe he will have a tragic accident.
 
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Jail should be the least of a pedophiles worries...

Can't comment on the Judge... Decency precludes such. :mad:
 
Whether the judge believes in something is irrelevant. What the law demands is the sole consideration.

The only problem is if the law leaves the punishment in his discretion, then he will continue to advocate "feelings" over the law until removed.
 
Prison? I doubt if they will even process him like that. He will most likely spend his 60 days in the county lock-up. A much more protected environment than prison.
 
Don't forget time off for "good behavior", or early release for jail overcrowding. I hope this guy moves in next door to "Judge" Cashman when he gets out :mad: .

Yeah, I'm in contempt of (that) court.
 
As horribly wrong as it is... the story lacks a lot of information. This was not "rape", it was "stachatory rape". Problems become tough when both parties are willing, and neither would tell anyone else. I'm not saying the judge was wrong in his sentencing... dont get me wrong. Incomplete stories just piss me off.
 
Okay, lets put our emotions aside for a second and LOOK at the sentence.

The guy was found guilty. Part of the sentencing is determining what would be an appropriate sentence given a lot of different factors. For sex offenders that includes the repeat offender risk. Apparently this guy is a low risk.

But Judge Cashman explained that he is more concerned that Hulett receive sex offender treatment as rehabilitation. But under Department of Corrections classification, Hulett is considered a low-risk for re-offense so he does not qualify for in-prison treatment.So the judge sentenced him to just 60 days in prison and then Hulett must complete sex treatment when he gets out or face a possible life sentence.

So, the dept which does the sentencing recommendations gave this guy a low-risk assessment and the judge concurred. The result is a low time sentence of 60 days.

HOWEVER after the 60 days, the guy is required to complete a sex offender treatment program or his parole will be revoked and he will be sent back to jail possibly for life.

So, if he's a good guy, he does his time and goes into & completes treatment and becomes a registered sex offender for the rest of his life. If he's a bad guy he goes to jail, comes out, fails to do the treatment program or re-offends and he goes back to jail for the rest of his life.

Sounds to me like there was a lot of mitigating factors and the judge followed the recommendation of the corrections dept. If that's the case and he was within the sentencing guidelines, there's nothing wrong with the sentence given.

The fact that the guy is scum doesn't change any of the above.
 
"So, if he's a good guy, he does his time and goes into & completes treatment and becomes a registered sex offender for the rest of his life."

"...IF he's a good guy"???? He's NOT a good guy! He repeatedly raped a young girl over a period of four years. I could care less if some psychologist has declared him a "low risk". He needs to be in prison.

Tim
 
Problems become tough when both parties are willing

Unbelievable!:barf: :mad:

For sex offenders that includes the repeat offender risk. Apparently this guy is a low risk.

Why does his sentencing have to do with what he may do in the future, and not the crime he is being punished for??

If that's the case and he was within the sentencing guidelines, there's nothing wrong with the sentence given.

I'd like to see you tell that to the litte girl.:mad:

I'm really losing faith in humanity:(

Unbelievable!:barf: :mad:
 
OK Rob, emotions are aside (don't have many of those left anyhow).

Rehab for pedophiles just doesn't work. They are almost always repeat offenders. It's just a part of them, a part of their nature. They can't change their desires, however perverted.

So, the dept which does the sentencing recommendations gave this guy a low-risk assessment and the judge concurred.
Sorry, but I don't have a whole lot of faith in the "assessors". A while back, we pink slipped (involuntary admission for mental evaluation) a person threatening suicide. He was "assessed" in less than an hour, released by the "assessors", and committed suicide six hours later.

If he's a bad guy he goes to jail, comes out, fails to do the treatment program or re-offends (emphasis added) and he goes back to jail for the rest of his life.
And therein is the crux of the problem. The primary and crucial goal here is to prevent a "re-offense", which could involve someone close to you, or to any of us. If rehab won't work, what are the alternatives? Remember that incarceration isn't just punitive, it's also meant to remove a threat from society.

I would rather see 10 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man sentenced, but this is different. He'll do it again, just as surely as a dog will pee on a fire hydrant. Both experience and history says it's so.
 
Sorry Rob, I just don't buy it.

An adult having repeated sex with a seven year old (of either sex) over a four year period, is an adult with a major problem. Psychs tell us that such people cannot be rehabilitated and will re-offend.

This isn't statutory rape. This is pedophilia in it's full definition: Sexual attraction to pre-pubescent individuals. It is a crime against nature. It is in fact a heinous crime. The victim is indelibly and forever marred by the actions of this creature. There is only one fitting punishment.

Sixty days is an outrageous sentence. It flies in the face of the punishment fitting the crime... And I don't give a hoot as to what the sentencing recommendations were.

This Judge needs to be impeached, disbarred and charged with contributing to criminal behavior.
 
If that was my daughter that was raped then thats about how long i would want the rapist in jail. That would give me enough time to sound proof my barn. To sharpen some knives or maybe dull a few. To dig the various holes in the woods i would need for desposal of rapist. To get the appropriate torture instruments and to brush up on various torture techniques. wouldn't want him to expire to soon now would we.;) Then once he was out it would be KATIE BAR THE DOOR!
 
Hey guys, personally I believe that pedophilia should be a mandatory 3rd strike felony. But, that's just my personal opinion.

Here we have some different issues. One is mandatory sentencing laws. The other is that the "system" does stuff a certain way and is limited by the guidelines mandated by fedgov, the US Constitution, and SCOTUS. And finally, in this country we don't punish people for crimes they haven't committed yet.

So, putting all that together with the facts as we know them, this guy gets 60 days and a mandatory rehab program. If he fails to complete the program he goes back to jail for life.

Well & good since he's being punished for the crimes he committed based on the unmentioned factors that could have mitigated his sentencing.

Being a possible repeat offender doesn't change any of that since that would be a different offense that hasn't occurred yet. If it hasn't happened, he can't be punished for it.
 
I usually try to remember that there is always more to a story than is told by one side, or by the media. I make an honest attempt to look at things objectively. With this one there is no other side and there can not be a single mitigating circumstance, or unmentioned factor determining his sentence. An adult male repeatedly raped a child over a period of four years. What else is there to say, or question? What circumstance could there possibly be to justify not putting this animal in a cage for as long as possible? I would really like to hear just one good reason because I honestly can't think of one.
 
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