simonkenton
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"Okay guys, nobody has substantiated that there was a busload of workers in the woods or if the shootee was an immigrant or not. If there had been a busload of workers, I doubt there would have been a shooting as they would have been making too much noise.
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The residence of the deceased is listed as Marshall, NC.
I live in Marshall.
Rest assured, a 50 year old guy named Luciano Martinez is a recent immigrant from south of the border.
Rest assured this statement is wrong. Martinez had lived in Marshall since 2000 and lived in Burnsville several years before that. I would not call 8 years of residence "recent" by any stretch.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pb...=2008812170339
Not only that, the guy had been picking for some time, apparently, and had a permit to pick. No, he probably was not wearing blaze orange.
So how about cutting all this stupid immigration discussion since it doesn't pertain to the issue at hand, a hunter who failed to properly identify his target and killed a human being. It does not matter if that human being was a resident, alien, or tourist."
"Nobody has substantiated as to whether he is an immigrant."
Listen, Mr Know It All, I live here in Marshall, and there are no fifty year old locals named Luciano Martinez. Just from the name I know he is a recent immigrant.
Your own link states that he has seven children living in Mexico.
Do you assert that he was born in Marshall, and his seven children moved to Mexico?
Yes, his having lived here just 8 of his 50 years makes him a recent immigrant.
Compared to a local who was born here 50 years ago, having lived here just 8 years is recent.
Anyway, you have utterly missed my point.
I never said there was a busload of Mexicans picking plants.
My point was, that, as a Latino immigrant, Mr. Martinez is most likely not familiar with local cultural traditions such as deer hunting.
Thus in his ignorance, he was in the National Forest, at a time in which most locals would not go into the National Forest.
A local Marshall citizen would know that it is dangerous, due to the risk of being shot by a deer hunter.
If a local did go into the National Forest during deer season, he would probably wear, at least, an orange baseball hat.
A $2 orange baseball hat would have saved this man's life.
If you would have read what I wrote, Mr. Self Righteous, you would see that I called for jail time for the shooter.
To explain my views further, the behavior of these hunters is inexcusable.
Whether this was a doe, a buck, or the Governor of North Carolina, these guys didn't know the difference. So, for wantonly taking human life the shooter deserves a lot of jail time.
I never said the shooter deserves to walk because the dead guy is probably an illegal Mexican, but you seem to have inferred such.
Please get down off your high horse, Double Naught Spy, it will make you dizzy up there.
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The residence of the deceased is listed as Marshall, NC.
I live in Marshall.
Rest assured, a 50 year old guy named Luciano Martinez is a recent immigrant from south of the border.
Rest assured this statement is wrong. Martinez had lived in Marshall since 2000 and lived in Burnsville several years before that. I would not call 8 years of residence "recent" by any stretch.
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pb...=2008812170339
Not only that, the guy had been picking for some time, apparently, and had a permit to pick. No, he probably was not wearing blaze orange.
So how about cutting all this stupid immigration discussion since it doesn't pertain to the issue at hand, a hunter who failed to properly identify his target and killed a human being. It does not matter if that human being was a resident, alien, or tourist."
"Nobody has substantiated as to whether he is an immigrant."
Listen, Mr Know It All, I live here in Marshall, and there are no fifty year old locals named Luciano Martinez. Just from the name I know he is a recent immigrant.
Your own link states that he has seven children living in Mexico.
Do you assert that he was born in Marshall, and his seven children moved to Mexico?
Yes, his having lived here just 8 of his 50 years makes him a recent immigrant.
Compared to a local who was born here 50 years ago, having lived here just 8 years is recent.
Anyway, you have utterly missed my point.
I never said there was a busload of Mexicans picking plants.
My point was, that, as a Latino immigrant, Mr. Martinez is most likely not familiar with local cultural traditions such as deer hunting.
Thus in his ignorance, he was in the National Forest, at a time in which most locals would not go into the National Forest.
A local Marshall citizen would know that it is dangerous, due to the risk of being shot by a deer hunter.
If a local did go into the National Forest during deer season, he would probably wear, at least, an orange baseball hat.
A $2 orange baseball hat would have saved this man's life.
If you would have read what I wrote, Mr. Self Righteous, you would see that I called for jail time for the shooter.
To explain my views further, the behavior of these hunters is inexcusable.
Whether this was a doe, a buck, or the Governor of North Carolina, these guys didn't know the difference. So, for wantonly taking human life the shooter deserves a lot of jail time.
I never said the shooter deserves to walk because the dead guy is probably an illegal Mexican, but you seem to have inferred such.
Please get down off your high horse, Double Naught Spy, it will make you dizzy up there.