Huge Sale going on!

Yeah, I saw that. Where are all the G&G's ? I am not interested in a .44 1851 faux Navy.

Looks like BPS has taken over sales.

Yeah, a Pietta Navy .36 at $200 is OK but I bought my last one from them a year ago for $170 with free shipping.

Things are changing.

Search on, friends.

Jim
 
AKexpat said:
Yeah, I saw that. Where are all the G&G's ? I am not interested in a .44 1851 faux Navy.

Looks like BPS has taken over sales.

Yeah, a Pietta Navy .36 at $200 is OK but I bought my last one from them a year ago for $170 with free shipping.

Things are changing.

Search on, friends.

Jim
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I did the same. It was back in October 2016 I think and I used a $100 gift card as well. :D

Glad I didn't pay more than $100 for it cuz Colt open top revolvers suck. #1858NMA4Life

I don't think after the Bass Pro takeover that we'll ever see those great deals on black powder guns from Cabela's anymore. I'm waiting for next year when 1858 Sheriff's go on sale and that will be the last time I buy a percussion revolver from Cabela's.
 
Cabela's did put their Pietta steel frame 1860s on sale for $209 during the last week of November. That's $20 less than now. Better price than I saw anywhere else. I did pick one up. In fact, between Cabela's, Midway, and Sportsman Warehouse, I picked up three percussion revolvers at some really good prices this year. Just pays to watch the ads, and additional info picked up through various forums. As to the Bass Pro buy out, Cabela's has still had some very good sale prices on certain products, if it fits the need.
I've even got some killer prices at Scheels on reloading equipment, that others were not close to. Just seeing it, at the right time, I guess.
 
It might be a huge sale, but I am not liking the twist rate on the Tradition barrels. They are a compromise at best for the shooting that I do.
 
ive heard that before but its a bunch of bogus talk. If you are shooting massive 120 grain loads, that twist is to fast, but for a .50cal, its just right. I shoot 70gr 3fg goex and she will stack them together at 100 yards. It will also keep them within 3" at 100 with 90gr 3fg.
 
Yup, even the original Hawken rifles were 1 in 48". One of the most accurate and forgiving rifles I have is an Investarms Hawken with that twist.
 
Yup, even the original Hawken rifles were 1 in 48".
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Most were 1:48. In the early days, T/C had a 1:66 option for their Hawken barrels. I have one of them, bought it new, and it shoots round ball better than any 1:48 twist barrel I have. Totally sucks with maxi balls. Optimum load for mine is 80gr 2f real bp and a patched round ball. I've tried to push them with more powder, but accuracy suffers.
 
I was at Cabela's tonight, and their BP stuff in stock was really getting low. I also fear that Bass Pro is putting out these black powder revolver deals because they want to run down the inventory and stop selling them. Too bad. I live 15 minutes from a Bass Pro and over an hour from the nearest Cabela's, and I still much prefer Cabela's.

I bought the Colt replica 1851 and 1860 in last few months, because the Colt designs don't suck.

As for the discussion on twist rate, I think the rifling depth on roundball rifles is much more important than the twist rate.
 
Ive had all three. 1:48, 1:60 and 1:66. They all shoot equally well. With a .50cal, there is no point in shooting 100-110gr+ grain powder charges as it makes very little difference in ft lbs energy at 100 yards. I shoot the most accurate loads in my rifle. I took a lot of abuse in my younger days shooting foolish loads. Now My neck is paying for it.

Can't argue with a 100 yard group like this from a 1:48 twist with patched round ball.
 
I never had a 1:48 that would do that. I do have a .54 with a 1:66 twist that will do that with 90 grain charges.
 
noelf2 said:
Most were 1:48. In the early days, T/C had a 1:66 option for their Hawken barrels. I have one of them, bought it new, and it shoots round ball better than any 1:48 twist barrel I have. Totally sucks with maxi balls. Optimum load for mine is 80gr 2f real bp and a patched round ball. I've tried to push them with more powder, but accuracy suffers.
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I was talking about the original Hawken rifles made by the Hawken brothers in the 19th century as having 1 in 48" twist. I think more important is the depth of the rifling. Some of the rifles with shallow rifling don't shoot well with heavier loads.
 
Just wish the Euros could get the looks right... you can spot a Traditions/Spanish muzzleloader a mile away, look nothing like the real original guns.
 
I was talking about the original Hawken rifles made by the Hawken brothers in the 19th century as having 1 in 48" twist.
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Some of them did. Some of them were used with long heavy conicals.
 
TC, Lyman dont look anything close to the original Hawken either. Its just a marketing name these days. Traditions/Ardesa Hawken one one time had a really great looking Hawken but with it, came an almost 11lb rifle.
 
Pedersoli makes a fairly decent looking one but a tad pricey. The Lyman Great Plains Rifle is about as close as you're going to get with a decent priced production rifle.
 
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