How to measure groupings

Actually there is as it would direct to another forum, which I've been told off for doing before.
Too many moving parts.
If anyone is interested enough to go look just type the name "PointBlank" into [insert favorite search engine/browser here] & you can see if it's right for you.

In all honesty as its shareware I'm not even sure it is (c):confused:
 
Wogpotter,

Copyrights used to have to be applied for, but now are automatic when you author something. You don't even have to use the copyright symbol anymore, though you can choose to use it to act as a reminder to people you have a copyright. I put that on my images, usually. I have a policy that shooters can copy them freely for private use, but, as has happened, if someone from a money-making operation wants to use it in their operation, they have to make a donation to a veteran's charity.

Having that automatic copyright can be useful. Suppose, for example, I authored something but then found out a child exploitation site was "giving me free advertising". I'd want that stopped, pronto, and would be grateful for the right to stop it. For that reason, there is some discussion of even links to a site being covered by copyright ultimately, but the courts haven't gone there yet, AFAIK.

We don't have a problem with you putting up links to a product. It becomes an issue if it is a drive-by post, consisting only of a link with no contextual introduction to explain it. It's also an issue when it is a link to your own product, or to your own forum. In those last two instances it becomes a sales or promotion activity and runs afoul of the rule against advertising.


Noelf2,

I can't figure out the purpose of what you are calculating? In the first instance, suppose I have 5" between the two widest spaced holes in a group. I divide by two, to get 2.5", which is less than 3", so I stop dividing, per your instruction. But my group is still 5". So, why did I do that?

In the second instance, I don't how dividing some number of inches by two gets you MOA? MOA is arrived at by taking the inches between the widest spaced points of impact in the group, multiplying that number of inches by 300, then dividing the result by the range in yards, and then dividing again by pi. It works for rifle or pistol.
 
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Unclenick I was being facetious. Some people always claim to get 3 inch pistol groups at 50 yards, and all their rifles shoot moa. Maybe they use this sort of math.
 
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Noelf2, you left out the last line (which would have made your intent clear)

Measuring pistol groups:

Measure greatest distance between two holes. Divide by 2 until you get < 3" group.

Measuring rifle groups:

Measure greatest distance between two holes. Divide by 2 until you get MOA.

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Yes, center to center is the appropriate approach or measure edge to edge and substract a bullet diameter (actually the diameter of a hole in the target).
Emphasis added. It's not uncommon for the size of the hole in the paper to be smaller than the nominal bullet diameter.

I've done some experimentation, and it's generally more accurate to measure center to center by eyeballing the center of the holes than it is to measure edge to edge and then try to subtract some figure based on bullet or hole diameter. If you're using good target paper and wadcutters, that might be the exception.
 
Well I e seen some shoot at 50 yards and swear it was 200 yards ! So even if I see someone post on hear you always just say, man you did good and wonder. Lol. On pistol targets posted on here I always see if I can see powder burns on target !!!! Haha
 
Noelf2,

Sorry I didn't get it. I shoot so many sub 3" 50 yard pistol groups and sub moa rifle groups, it just went right over my head that there was anything funny about it. ;)
 
I use a Stanley tape measure and measure center to center of farthest holes. Someday I will shoot and post a target that will be good enough to not get me laughed off of this website.
 
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