How to decock B6P correctly/safely

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wild cat mccane

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Hello,

I am considering a B6P/Witness/TP9SF Elite for a cheap fun gun.

Could someone detail how you safely decock the Sar B6P as it does not have a decocker?

Thank you!
 
I would use my right hand to pull the trigger and hold the hammer. I would use my left hand to support and block the hammer fall with my left thumb.

Since, I don't have a left hand, I really do it one handed pointed a safe direction.
 
Thanks Nathan.

Follow up: when it has been decocked, are all mechanical blocks active (firing pin block if it has one)? Is the hammer impact/drop safe without the safety?

Thank you
 
I am considering a B6P/Witness/TP9SF Elite for a cheap fun gun.
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1. Why if it is a "cheap fun gun" i. e. range toy?
2. Like any other hammer fired pistol without a decocker. Say 1911, Browning High Power, CZ 75.
 
Release the trigger as soon as the hammer is free to go. It will activate the firing pin block as the hammer rides down with finger. Practise with an empty pistol.

-TL
 
You will find slightly different techniques for this procedure.

I agree with tangolima above, that the safest way is to completely remove your finger from the trigger as you slowly lower the hammer down. IF the hammer slips, it will catch in the half cock position and firing block safeties are in place.
Now this method is a two step process because you will need to repeat once the half cock notch is reached. But I believe that this is MUCH safer that the video linked above where the guy holds the trigger to the rear the whole process. If the hammer slips, the gun is likely to fire.

Hopefully that makes sense.
 
Even using the method to safely lower the hammer, if it does not have a manual safety in that state, be careful not to drop the firearm as the hammer can hit the pin. If you have a safety with it cocked (like a 1911), use it. Otherwise, remove the magazine and rack the slide to eject the cartridge from the chamber first.
 
Boncrayon said:
Even using the method to safely lower the hammer, if it does not have a manual safety in that state, be careful not to drop the firearm as the hammer can hit the pin.
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If the handgun has a firing pin block, and almost all new ones (including the B6P) do have FPB's, dropping the firearm isn't going to cause the gun to fire. The firing pin block will keep the firing pin (or in the case of striker-fired guns, the striker) from moving.

If, on the other hand, the person decocking the weapon is still uncomfortable decocking, using the offhand to add extra control to the hammer as it's lowered should make it almost impossible to have a negligent discharge.

If, somehow, both hands allow the hammer to somehow slip, and it's early in it's arc, if the gun is kept pointed in a safe direction (down range, or into the ground in front of the person decocking the weapon), the worse that can happen is a wsted round and some embarrassment for the shooter.

Manually decocking a handgun is a basic gun-handling skill, and everyone should know how to do it.
 
I should say, I am used to guns with a decocker. I am unsure when and how the internal safeties work when manually decocking for guns without a decocker.
 
If you are not comfortable with pistols that don't have decocker, perhaps you should reconsider. It is a tool with risk. It will become dangerous if you are afraid of it.

-TL
 
tangolima said:
If you are not comfortable with pistols that don't have decocker, perhaps you should reconsider. It is a tool with risk. It will become dangerous if you are afraid of it.
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Isn't that true with almost anything you'd do with a handgun?

Decocking a handgun is not rocket science, and if you do it properly, decocking is no more dangerous than many of the other things you might routinely do with a gun -- such as drawing quickly from a holster, holstering a loaded weapon, firing a cocked & locked SA gun from the holster, shooting rapidly, learning to shoot on the move, etc.

How does one become unafraid of decocking? By practicing with an unloaded weapon, and maybe practicing using snap caps, then finally doing it from time to time at the range, with a hot gun pointed in a safe direction.
 
I guess I am confused - if this is a fun gun, what's the issue? Pull the mag, eject live round, pull trigger on empty chamber or do the process above. There shouldn't be any danger so what am I missing?????:confused:
 
Do you NEED to get to a hammer down/loaded chamber condition for, say, IDPA or USPSA competition? If not, see previous post.

The instructions for the similar CZ75 say to pinch the hammer hard with the off hand, pull the trigger, and ease the hammer all the way down. (IDPA requires it all the way down, not on half cock unless mechanically decocked there.)

My old "pre B" CZ has the long spur hammer which is easy to lower with the thumb like a western movie actor lowering the hammer of his single action army revolver. I would not do that with a burr hammer, though.
 
Thank you for all the replies. My fault, but I am still unsure about decocking without the safety on after--it is drop safe at this point because the firing pin block, yes?

Totally comfortable with the decock idea as I've have many hammer DA/SA (and P99) with the decocker. I am just unsure about the mechanisms on a DA/SA without a decocker. Nothing to get anties about :)
 
for a cheap fun gun.
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So, unload the gun and then drop the hammer per the maker's recommendation.
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EEE-Zactly!
Confusing if it is to be a "cheap fun gun", which implies range toy, why the concern for lowering the hammer. Shoot it empty first, or pull the magazine and rack the slide if you aren't comfortable with a technique that has been being used since 1911!
 
Totally comfortable with the decock idea as I've have many hammer DA/SA (and P99) with the decocker. I am just unsure about the mechanisms on a DA/SA without a decocker. Nothing to get anties about
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Yes it will be safe. As soon as you have manually lowered the hammer it is the same as if you used a decocker on the gun. I assume you are asking if the gun is drop safe. Yes it will be drop safe.

If you are asking something else please clarify.

tipoc
 
Perfect example of what I was getting at after doing some searching on the EAA vs Sar.

EAA/Tanfoglio Polymer Witness FAB92, which the B6P copies from the Witness: the decocker on the FAB92 model decocks, but the hammer is not drop safe unless the decocker/safety is left on.
 
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