+1 orionengr ... I'm 65, lived and worked in SF for more than 30 years; when I retired, we headed for Texas and I got my CHL six months later ... had it since mid-2004, so 6 years and counting for me ... for those of you still living in the few states which don't trust you if you're armed, believe me, there is nothing like slipping on your SD firearm every day, knowing that your rights are respected by the folks who run your state. I wouldn't move back to CA for a free house on the PCH ...