How many of you break the law on opening day,

guntotin_fool said:
for example, tagging, in our state, the tag is supposed to go on as soon as you reach the deer. We don't do that, in fact we often don't tag until the last moment. Why? well if Joe is only hunting one weekend, and he has shot nothing, and his either sex tag is going to go to waste, well he will tag the buck that is hanging and haul it home, Dick may have shot that buck, but he now still has his buck option remaining. Dick has four doe tags, so if he had shot a doe, he would have tagged that...but why take away his buck tag?
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Disclaimer: I hope that I don't offend you or anyone else, as what I'm going to post isn't meant to do so; it's meant to illustrate the point of this thread and expand upon the discussion. So, with that out of the way and the high hope that this topic will remain a civil discussion, here goes:

Is this legal in your state? If not, then the question of 'why take away his buck tag' should be answered. Further, if not legal, then have both parties then broken the law; the first for allowing someone else to use his tag, and the second for using someone elses?
 
Well I know in Florida I do not have to stop shooting at 2 deer. I just have to give one away before shooting the 3rd... Is it legal? I have no clue but I haven't had this *problem* yet...
I can be in possession of only 4 whole deer but once cut and wrapped they are just meat in the freezer and I am off to shoot more... Man I am chomping at the bit for season to start...
Brent
 
I haven't broken the laws purposely since we've had laws with the exception of necessity. A few days without food can make one rethink laws as can a large 'gator between you and your path home.
 
NO offense.

In our state, you are supposed to only tag the deer you shoot. Party hunting is legal, but it gets grey then between the two. we have different tag limits in different parts of the state, were some places are one antlered deer, unless you win a antlerless lottery, to other places (like where we hunt, were you have one buck tag, and up to 4 more management tags for antlerless deer. A few places are to the intensive harvest area, which are kill all you want. more or less.

What I was saying was more of an examination between what is the spirit of the law, and what is the letter of the law.

In fact our guide book has become so involved that making a mistake based on misunderstanding is a real common act. I just heard of a young man who broke the law, but he was so clear in his responses to the CO that he was given a warning because he felt the laws said one thing, and had a reasonable expectation that it was written that way, so the CO said, I can see where a reasonable person might make that mistake as well.


When I started hunting the rules were far clearer, only taking up a few fold out pages on a map of the different zones, now we have something like 200 areas, and 3 zones, and 3 seasons, all for firearms, not counting early firearms, early park and controlled zone, muzzle loader, archery, etc.

When deer were scarce, it made a bigger difference, but today, deer are overrunning the habitat in places, and if you bend the rules a bit, its not likely to end the chances for the herds survival.

Today in minnesota, we expect to kill about a quarter million deer a year, just a few years ago, in the mid seventies, hunting was stopped for a year, because it was thought one more year of hunting and no habitat would kill off the herd. the herd then was well under 100,000 animals in the whole state, perhaps as few as 20,000. today we have that just in the Metro area.
 
By the law for me. I haven't seen anyone breaking the deer gun season laws, except I do hear them. Since all shotguns are limited to three rounds in the tube, I hear more than three rounds rapid fire (meaning their shotgun was loaded with at least five rounds). And I hear shots well before the legal hunt time of 1/2 hour before sunrise and shots after the closing at sunset.
 
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I would say that I do EVERYTHING by the book ALTHOUGH there IS one thing that really IRKS me. I find that, with certain calibers, a Wide Flat Nosed Beartooth bullet at high velocity would be better for hunting medium game than a hollowpoint bullet would be due to this handgun caliber in question's lower power (albeit LEGAL) status for hunting. The Dept of Conservation says that only hollowpoint bullets can be used legally.

Its frustrating to have to use a suboptimal (and less humane) method to take game simply because its required by the conservation dept (and their screwy illogical rules, in this case).

Still, I follow the rules.... :rolleyes:
 
I tend to speed a bit everywhere I go, so I'll probably be going 5-10 MPH over the limit on my way to the stand.

I also don't carry those books with time of sunrise & set, so I go by common sense instead of the legal 30 min before or after.

Oh yeah, I don't have a plug in my shotgun, but I don't load more than 3 if I'm hunting anyway.

I bend a few laws, but excepting the speed limit I try not to break them.
 
I usually have the DNR booklet with the time of sunrise and sunset. And have my digital wristwatch set to the time given by the Naval Observatory. When I shoot, I'm legal as to time.

Cousins are legal here in Georgia:D

I've broken game laws two or three times in the past fifty years. Don't make a habit of it. Biggest one I can think of is hunting without a license while visiting another state. Once.
 
I have put shells in before walking to stand to avoid the loud noise of my 1187 action. We get lots of doe permits so no problem where we hunt so all is tagged. We have forgotten the permits after tracking a deer so instead of walking a mile back and forth, we have dragged the deer put it in truck and then tagged it back at the ranch. (deer hear are to be tagged at point of transport.) All deer are tagged, no night hunting, always safe. We are safety zealots. If anyone ever has a shell in there gun in the truck he is maligned for the rest of the season, as a novice, unsafe, has bad lineage, poor upbringing, ignorant and anything else we can muster. It's more of a sport if you follow the rules and sort of makes it fun. We have all said, Mother ***** if it was 10 minutes later/earlier I could have, should have etc. If you follow the rules it gives you a great sense of honor and it teaches the new hunters to follow the rules. If you start to follow the rules of game taking it's a slippery slope and then you get to.. "hey it was almost daybreak, or I only had shells in my gun but the action was open.. or I was just about on our property.. etc., and soon trouble ensues. Play it safe play it clean and take the challenge of getting game legally.
 
I hunt by Wichita so I go out with NRA's cousins.

I own the land, I raise the game, so I make the rules and if I dont like them then I change them. That way I dont break them. :D:D
 
Yard dog, That is legal in many locations of florida but I won't pull my orange! No way No How except on the occasion I go with my wheelchair buddy on a limited mobility hunt where the Eglin AFB boys put these guys and gals in there on SECTION and it is ALWAYS in a VERY CLOSED section to general hunting...
Only time I present orange is returning towards him after giving him a drive.
Brent
 
Hogdogs/ Remeber years back some guy was shooting hunters out of the tree (2) to be exact Idon't want that happen to me by some copy cat :eek:
 
my moms house is in a suburban environment with plenty woods and deer around so i thought id make em swing a little closer to my backyard by putting a mineral block out. havent shot nething off of it yet but as soon as gun season is out i plan on sitting in a ground blind about 10 yrds from it, listen to my ipod, waiting for one of the tame does in the area to stop by for a lick!
hehehe :)
 
No law breaker here....If you cant obide by the rules, dont play. If you dont like the rules, use the leagal means to get them changed.
 
sourdough44,

i load mine unless i'm near a safety zone when i'm parked or heading to a spot. sometimes however rarely, i may only put 2 in the mag,leave the chamber empty. in case i run into something that has 4 legs, other than a deer. that may cause me harm. the muzzleloader gets loaded before i walk away from vehicle. i try to be in position before legal hunting time. but won't shoot until its time.

i bait my hook 2 minutes before 8 am on opening day of trout season. as long as the line isn't in the water i'm not fishing before i'm allowed to.
 
I follow all the laws as best as humanly possible. Now for the cousins, why go across the street when you can go across the hall;):eek:
 
Hunting in MN, I never worried about shooting to early.

I would get out to my stand while it was still dark, climb up it, pull my unloaded rifle up to me with rope, and prepare myself and my equipment.

Fifteen minutes later, shivering with cold, I would lower my unloaded rifle down with a rope, climb out of the stand, and find the nearest brushpile to crash out in. After about an hour of sleeping in the freezing cold, I would head back to the truck for lunch and then nod off for a couple of hours.

When I woke up at about 1:30 in the afternoon I would start my hunt.

IMO, any shooting before noon is totally uncalled for.:D

Using these advanced hunting techniques guarantees me of getting the very best of what the lunch cooler has to offer.:D:D:D
 
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