How many bullets can I legally carry?

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When I first saw the post, the answer that immediately came to my mind was "as much as I could put in my pockets".

I'm not from Texas but I spent a summer in boot camp there!
 
I've had a CHL in TX since they passed the law.

Assuming you have a CHL in TX.
  • There is no legal limit to the number of rounds you can carry on your person.
  • There is no legal limit to the number of rounds you can put in a magazine that you are carrying as a reload for your carry handgun.
  • There is no legal limit to the number of loaded magazines you can carry.
  • There is no legal limit to the number of rounds you can put in the magazine of a handgun you are carrying.
  • There is no legal limit to the number of handguns you can carry on your person.
There is no law that says any of those things, that is why you couldn't find a law limiting the number of rounds. What is not limited by law is legal. It is the absence of laws providing limits that is the proof that there are no limits.
 
This is why (some) people prefer ligher(sic) guns, and lighter ammo (you will find a 8 round .45 auto weighs much (really???) less when loaded with 185gr JHPs than when loaded with 230gr slugs.
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Yes, I have my TX CHL. I qualified with my G-23 in 2002 and have carried it with 13+1 rounds legally (there is no law in TX limiting the number of rounds in your concealed weapon). I no longer own a Glock--my choice, not the state's.

Many people in TX carry a K-T P-11 (I owned one for a while), various Para double stacks from 10-16 rounds (yes, I've owned and carried one or two of those too). I also owned (and carried) an HK P7M13 (13 rounds of 9mm).
 
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This is why 9mm is soooo much better then .45acp-
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Implying because a 9mm holds MORE rounds; it's soooo much better.

I was in a public rest room one time with a few people doing their business. A gentleman with his young son (Probably around 8 years old) was waiting for his son to finish at the urinal. When the young boy finished, he started to walk out of the rest room. His father made eye contact with another man standing at one of the sinks, and became embarrassed. The father called over to his son; "Kevin, you forgot to wash your hands". Then still embarrassed, the father said to the other gentleman; "I try teaching my son to wash his hands after using the bathroom". (As if he was redeeming or rationalizing his position with his son). The other gentleman simply replied; "I teach my son NOT to pee on his hands".

The purpose of my story is; while SOME people may think that a 9mm is soooo much better than a 45acp because it holds more bullets; I simply say to you; "Learn how to shoot your weapon and hit your target; and you won't need more than the 7 rounds that an average 45acp carries". In other words; if you can't hit your target with 7 rounds, you have no business with a gun in your hands. And this is not "Die Hard", "Lethal Weapon", or some "John Wayne" Hollywood movie where it's you against a gang of bad guys where you're dropping clips, reloading, and diving across the hood of a car. If you want to dream those scenarios, it's definitely entertaining. But that isn't real life. I teach martial art classes. I consider myself quite accomplished. I had a student ask me; "What do you do if a bad guy pulls out a gun and demands your wallet." My answer was quite simple. "I GIVE HIM MY WALLET". Every scenario is different. There is a time to every purpose under heaven.

I'm not dogging the 9mm. No, it's not a preferred weapon of mine. But that's not the point. But saying that it's a "Better" caliber simply because you can carry MORE of them is lame. For that type of logic, you should get a ruger 22LR. You can get 30-50 round magazine for them. Just like you can get 10+ round magazines for 45acp. If someone wants to say that the 9mm is better than a 45acp because it's usually smaller, lighter, less recoil, etc... that's fine. Whether I agree or not doesn't matter. But to say it's better because it holds more rounds is futile. That simply means that the person handling the weapon doesn't know how to shoot; if they need more rounds.
 
So I am in Arizona right. So are you saying I can carry my P95, both its 15rd mags, the Taurus 85 and two speed loaders for a total of 45 rds and no LEO will question that?

I guess the next question that would come to mind is will I ever get stopped, probably not. in the 5 years I have been in arizona I am never been stopped by a cop.

but.... Is there any laws saying mags must be vvisible as well?

oh, and LOL! at post #9!
 
9mm vs 45 acp

This is why 9mm is soooo much better then .45acp-

Implying because a 9mm holds MORE rounds; it's soooo much better.
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I think you missed the point of the weight differential. Not the number of rounds in a 9mm vs 45. Oh yeah there was that little smily that MIGHT imply sarcasm.
 
So I am in Arizona right. So are you saying I can carry my P95, both its 15rd mags, the Taurus 85 and two speed loaders for a total of 45 rds and no LEO will question that?
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Provided you are doing so legally (either you have a concealed handgun license or you're excercising the right I'm about to detail), no LEO has the right to question anything about your carry choices.

but.... Is there any laws saying mags must be vvisible as well?
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In your case, it's a non issue, as the state of Arizona allows open carry (be forewarned however that it is illegal in some specific municipalities, check your local laws for details).
That said, I'm one of those folks who advocate concealed carry where open carry is legal for it's elements of subtlety and surprise, both of which are pretty compromised by exposed loaded magazines on your person.

I am not entirely certain if it is legal to have your ammunition exposed here in Texas, where Open Carry is prohibited, (I suspect not) but it's a non-issue for me because I never carry spare ammo.
 
1shotonekill; I probably did miss something. But there are a lot of people who like to claim that the 9mm, 40sw, etc... are BETTER guns and calibers because they hold more rounds. Such a silly argument. Probably because they fantasize about being in a Hollywood movie or make believe they are in gang situations.The REALITY, not PROBABILITY, is that unless you're IN a GANG, you aren't going to be shooting AGAINST a gang. If you're caught in a crossfire or friendly fire (Non-Intentional) shooting; then your gun isn't of any use anyway. And you're not going to be shooting against 10 criminals in a dark ally or in your house. Even if that scenario did exist; you better be looking at other survival skills within yourself.

The truth is; a 32acp, 380acp, ....... 44 magnum are all perfectly adequate calibers and guns for self defense / home defense. Based on the law of physics; the larger the hole and the more tissue damage and blood loss it can create, the BETTER the bullet. However; there is a limit to which gun/caliber an individual person feels comfortable shooting. If a particular person can under ALL SITUATIONS of stress and fear, accurately shoot a 32acp 7 for 7 in a 3 inch circle at 20 feet; compared to someone who is flinching, cringing, etc... from the recoil, sound, and flash of a 40, 10mm, 9mm, etc... and is missing so many shots; then the 32acp is the BETTER caliber and gun for that particular person. People forget that in a REAL LIFE situation, you DON'T have ear protection and eye protection on. That first shot INDOORS is going to be a real wakeup call. I've trained in those situations. Building, low lighting, no ear/eye protection. And also; because of the much LOWER SPEED; a 45acp is much easier to shoot in most guns than a 9mm or 40sw when it comes to noise. I personally think the DB level and frequency of the noise from the 45acp is much easier to handle in a real life situation. And the ultimate bottom line is; "If you can't hit your target and accomplish your mission with a 7 round magazine; you have absolutely NO BUSINESS having a gun in your hands".
 
Whoever provided the "I've heard 10 rds...." blather is f.o.s. Would somebody mind posting Texas's statute on the number of tires permited on a car?
 
at least he didn't say "clip" LoL

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@ Mr Niceguy - LoL :p
 
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....funny but so true...I like it ...I think it is funny how some people think they need enough ammo on them to hold off an army ...if SHTF I will be getting home ASAP...no need to carry a ton of ammo,plenty at home:D...that's where I will make my stand not out in public if 15 rounds of 45acp can't get me home then I'll start improvising
 
....funny but so true...I like it ...I think it is funny how some people think they need enough ammo on them to hold off an army
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And I think it is funny when people pick an arbitrary number of rounds and decide that is enough for them, no matter what, to see them to safety. They then make fun of anyone that carries more than that.

Oddly enough, that arbitrary number of rounds, in the vast majority of times, exactly equals the maximum number of rounds their current favorite carry firearm holds. Very rarely does it entail having to carry a extra magazine or speedloader.
 
I probably did miss something.
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Yep, most definitely. The purpose of the statement wasn't to highjack a thread into another caliber war, it was about weight. Compare the weight of a box of 100 9mm's against a box of 100 45acp's (the difference should be *quite* obvious, as it is with a single magazine with the same number of rounds for each caliber). Now multiply that by 3-5 boxes. The statement was meant to END any caliber war before it got started. I mean, the weight difference when carrying 500 rounds would seriously limit how many flights of stairs you could climb before jumping out a window. The result would make the difference between getting a nasty bump on your head, or doing the job right ;)
 
You're not actually saying that the 9mm is soooo much better than the 45acp because the bullets weigh less; are you? When you're carrying a gun for self defense; even if you are carrying 2 additional magazines; the weight difference of 45acp and 9mm is insignificant. Yes; if you're talking about carrying 500 rounds, it might mean something. But not in a carry weapon.
 
dr. pepper i would contact your lawyer for advice or the sheriff's office where you apply for the chl would probably be the best since it is the issuing entity.

p.s. welcome to the tfl, most people are usually nice and helpful, but i have to agree with mr. niceguy you not only were contradicting yourself over the advice you are looking for, but when you did get answers you were looking for them you refused to accept them.

dr pepper: I was wanting someone from Texas who has been through the class for a CHL to give me a simple answer. (#1)
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dr pepper: So.....I will just risk breaking the law because you say it is OK. I was just wanting someone to site a web page or statue not just "I THINK SO". Sorry judge I thought I could because some guy on a forum said so. (#10)
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and for the .45 vs 9mm debate


Winchester USA Ammunition 9mm Luger 115 Grain Full Metal Jacket Box of 50
Length: 5.2 in.
Width: 2.7 in.
Height: 1.4 in.
Weight: 1.4 lbs.

Winchester USA Ammunition 45 ACP 230 Grain Full Metal Jacket Box of 50
Length: 6.2 in.
Width: 3.2 in.
Height: 1.5 in.
Weight: 2.4 lbs.


so as we can see that is an additional lb per 50 rounds for .45

when carrying the proposed 300~500 rounds this is a weight advantage for the 9mm round to the tune of between 6 and 10 pounds.

fastforty: This is why 9mm is soooo much better then .45acp- just think of the weight difference when carrying 300-500 rounds
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i apperciate the sarcasm, and i like both rounds its just a matter of opinion

the real debate IS whether during the shtf moment if i'll be able to spray and pray fast enough to burn through 300 rds or do i need to figure out a ccw rig for some surplus ammo cans.

GAME ON!


almost forgot ibtl
 
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