How far can 26 in. 1:12 twist .223 reach?

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I would recommend the 1:9 twist for .223.

My CZ 527 Varmint (heavy barrel) with the Kevlar HS Precision stock is a real shooter.
Averages under 0.5 inches with handloads for 50, 52, 55, 60 and 63 grain bullets and under 0.56 with 45 grain and 65 grain bullets.
The set trigger operates when you push the regular trigger forward and it clicks into place. Then it is a single stage trigger that breaks at 2 lbs on my CZ. The regular trigger breaks at 3.2 lbs. I really like the set trigger for bench shooting.

Savage Law Enforcement models with the heavy barrel is also a shooter in the 1:9 twist range with about the same accuracy. The Accutrigger is great and came from the factory at 2 lbs 11 oz. I adjusted it to 2 lbs to match the CZ.
Both the CZ and the Savage are otherwise unmodified and both shot great out of the box.

My Remington needed a new Bell and Carlson stock and a Timney trigger to achieve that accuracy level. Having gone that route, I find that my Remington also shoots with sub 1/2 MOA accuracy with hand loads after the modifications but not across quite as wide a range of bullet weights. The stock and trigger (also adjusted to 2 lbs) just adds to the cost so it is something to consider, but the results are worth it.
 
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For a 10 year old, a Savage Axis in 223 1:9 twist can be had for about $390.00 with mounted scope in black or camo. Does not have the Accurtrigger but it is an accurate rifle that he will use till one of your 308s disapears for a deer hunt.

Jim
 
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From personal experience, the answer is somewhere between 600 and 800 yards.

A buddy took a standard AR15 to a long range match, shooting Winchester White Box 55gr FMJ. His rounds were still supersonic at 600, but were subsonic at 800.

The dropping below supersonic destabilized the hell out of them, and he went from not that great, to all over the damn place.
 
I would recommend the 1:9 twist for .223.
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Yeah my 1 in 9" twist 223s are a Rem 700LTR and Savage 12BVSS. Both shoot the 69 Sierra very accurately. Seems like the heavier 223 loads would be better for long range.
 
Got it narrowed down to:

All 1:9 twists

1. CZ 527 .223 Varmint 24" barrel
2. Savage 25 .223 LWT Lightwieght Varmint 24" barrel
3. Savage 12 VLP Varmint Low Profile 26" barrel.

Not so hot about the set trigger on the CZ. Has the "oops" potential.
I called Savage and the lady who answered said the VLP and the LWT are the same action just that the LWT has been lightened (including spiral grooves in the bolt).
I don't see that in the pics and the action looks totally different. The LWT looks like the action they use for their bolt .22s.
 
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All my 1-12 twists have been more accurate than my 1-9. With my Howa (1-12) in the desert we were routinely ringing an 8 inch gong at 400 yards (good strides) with cheep PMC 55gr FMJBT. There was a constant fair breeze asking us to hold about two inches right of center and elevated about 7 inches (easy when you know how big the gong is in the sight). They were passing right through, a few of them leaving their jackets in the hole in the gong. When I know my rifle is tuned and sighted right on I love shooting in the wind at long distance gongs. There is nothing wrong with that round at greater distances on calmer days, and as stated earlier by someone the effective range is determined by the chap behind the trigger. Also don't forget what that round can do in terms of terminal ballistics at those ranges even at twice that range that round will mess things up very very badly.
 
You can get a Stevens 200 for under $250.00 and customize as you see fit, trigger, stock, etc. I recently sold off some milsurps and bought three new rifles and two of them Stevens 200 in .243 and .223.

Below a Stevens 200, 26 inch heavy barrel in .223 with 1 in 9 twist with a $97.00 SSS trigger and over sized bolt handle added.

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The Remington 700 while rugged and well known above had one locking lug making far more contact than the other and I had to lap the lugs to fix this.:mad:

You can change the barrel on the Savage/Stevens line yourself with just a few tools.

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The bolt lugs "always" contact evenly on the Savage/Stevens with their floating bolt heads.

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If you like to tinker and customize your rifles you can't beat the Stevens 200.

Sharp Shooters Supply (best trigger for the $)

http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/

More very good info on Savage/Stevens line below.

http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/
 
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