Prof Young
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SOT . . .
What does SOT stand for?
Live well, be safe
Prof Young
What does SOT stand for?
Live well, be safe
Prof Young
What does SOT stand for?
Live well, be safe
Prof Young
And to elaborate futher, that's where the term "Class 3" comes from, which is a term that's often misunderstood. A Class 3 SOT is the type of SOT that allows a dealer to sell Title II (NFA) firearms. But a lot of dealers that people refer to as "Class 3" dealers actually don't have a Class 3 SOT, they have a Class 2 instead. A Class 2 SOT is even better than a Class 3 because it allows the dealer to both manufacture and sell Title II firearms.jabba21 said:Special occupational tax. It's a tax FFLs pay to deal in or manufacture NFA items.Prof Young said:What does SOT stand for?
Nope.Theohazard........ A Class 2 SOT is even better than a Class 3 because it allows the dealer to both manufacture and sell Title II firearms.
When did I ever claim that an 01 FFL could get a Class 2 SOT? Nothing I posted was even remotely incorrect.dogtown tom said:Nope.
01FFL's....."Dealer"....gets a Class 3 SOT......it allows them to ONLY deal in NFA firearms.
07FFL's...."Manufacturer"......gets a Class 2 SOT....it allows dealing and manufacturing of NFA firearms.
An 01FFL cannot get a Class 2 SOT.
When you wrote: "....A Class 2 SOT is even better than a Class 3 because it allows the dealer to both manufacture and sell Title II firearms.."Theohazard .....The store I work at deals in guns and NFA items, so many people would call us a dealer. We also have a Class 2 SOT. So tell me again how anything I wrote in post #43 is incorrect?
I didn't write my post specifically for aspiring dealers, I wrote my post for the average gun owner who visits these forums. Should I be expected to delve into every single detail of every single gun law in every post?dogtown tom said:When you wrote: "....A Class 2 SOT is even better than a Class 3 because it allows the dealer to both manufacture and sell Title II firearms.."
That implies that a "Dealer" has the option of a Class 2 SOT or a Class 3 SOT.......they don't.
It is quite common on this forum and others for neophyte and aspiring dealers to want to now what they can and cannot do as a Federal Firearms Licensee.
Imprecise language muddies the water. Your post did that.
The line between inaccurate and incorrect can be tricky. When it comes to legal issues, it can be dangerous.But don't come on here and "correct" someone who hasn't posted any incorrect information.
The "average gun owner" doesn't give a rats hiney whether his dealer has a Class 2 or Class 3 SOT.Theohazard .....I didn't write my post specifically for aspiring dealers, I wrote my post for the average gun owner who visits these forums.
When you "elaborate" on someone else's post you shouldn't muddy the water.Should I be expected to delve into every single detail of every single gun law in every post?
Often? 01/02's outnumber 07's by almost 7:1I used the term "dealer" as most people here use it; it's the place we go to buy guns. And a dealer can -- and often does -- have a manufacturing FFL.
The intent of my post was simply to explain where the often-misused term "Class 3" came from. You often hear people say things like "he has a Class 3".dogtown said:The "average gun owner" doesn't give a rats hiney whether his dealer has a Class 2 or Class 3 SOT.
I really don't see how I "muddied the water". To me, going on and on about the difference between manufacturer/dealer FFLs and dealer-only FFLs and how they relate to the different SOTs would have muddied the water more. I simply wanted to point out that the term "Class 3" is often misused and many dealers are actually Class 2 SOTs. (And yes, those dealers need a manufacturing FFL to get a Class 2 SOT.)dogtown tom said:When you "elaborate" on someone else's post you shouldn't muddy the water.
Seriously? You just always need to be right, don't you? Yes, "often", as in "happening frequently". Did I say they were a majority or even a plurality? No, I didn't.dogtown tom said:Often? 01/02's outnumber 07's by almost 7:1
When you wrote: "....A Class 2 SOT is even better than a Class 3 because it allows the dealer to both manufacture and sell Title II firearms.."
That implies that a "Dealer" has the option of a Class 2 SOT or a Class 3 SOT.......they don't.
Actually, a dealer (as in "a shop that deals in firearms") does have the option of a Class 2 SOT or a Class 3 SOT: They can set up a dealer-only FFL and get a Class 3 SOT, or they can set up a dealer/manufacturer FFL and get a Class 2 SOT. And next time I'll be sure to get into those details and avoid all this.Nlight1 said:dogtown tom said:When you wrote: "....A Class 2 SOT is even better than a Class 3 because it allows the dealer to both manufacture and sell Title II firearms.."
That implies that a "Dealer" has the option of a Class 2 SOT or a Class 3 SOT.......they don't.
I understood it the same way.
Thanks for clearing that up.