How are you voting from this upcoming election and forward?

How will you vote in the future

  • Democrat

    Votes: 8 8.5%
  • Republican

    Votes: 62 66.0%
  • Other Party/Won't vote

    Votes: 24 25.5%

  • Total voters
    94
rhgunguy...

Call me old fashioned but I am a strong beliver in family values and I know that as long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools .

And that's why America has about a 60% divorce rate right? Family values indeed. And in all honesty, there hasn't been public prayer in schools for quite some time (at least from what I understand so far.) And really if public prayer in school is okay, then are you being fair and saying people of ALL faiths can pray in school? Or are you leaning to one religion? Sorry, one religion doesn't work for everyone, give everyone's faith equal time, or keep your god(s) to yourself in order to be fair to all. Many seem to fail to read the clause in the First Amendment that goes:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

In other words neutrality. If you're going to pray don't involve others who are unwilling.


Epyon

EDIT: After seeing your edited post, I have to say if you're not alarmed that the Republicans are trying to pass bills such as domestic spying, and secret detentions, unwarranted searches and siezures on AMERICAN citizens then I hope you feel comfortable being guilty until proven innocent.
 
Bob, what gun control laws have they not repealed? The AWB has sunset, and Concealed Carry, Castle and Stand Your Ground laws are starting to be passed all over the country. The only places that gun control gets tighter is in areas where most people pull the (D) lever on election day(see California, expecialy San Francisco, Chicago, New York and New Jersey). The lesser of two evils argument is bunk. A vote for a third party at this point may as well be not voting at all. Don't get me wrong, I am disturbed by that the GOP is doing to the BoR, but not too disturbed, the DNC has been doing it for years.

rhgunguy, GCA 1968 is an example of federal law. Sunsetting is not a repeal, CC, Castle and Stand Your Ground are state laws (why you study the voting records of state legislators, even some Dems vote the right way at the state level, some Repubs are cutting our throats) Voting third party is not bunk and I resent the accusation it is. I'm not going to vote for someone that's making legislation that is destroying the BOR. It's not about winning or losing, it's voting my conscience. At least I won't be sucking up to the people trying to destroy my country. Things aren't going to change if we keep electing these bums. My .02

badbob
 
Epyon, did I pee in your Wheeties?

I belive in family values, it is not my fault or the governments fault that the divorce rate is about 60%. Keep in mind that that statistic is misleading(as are most statistics brought forth by those trying to prove something) 60% of people who marry don't get divorced, many are multiple divorcers. Furthermore, what has that got to do with anything?

Also, I did not say public prayer, it is just a little joke told to me by a member of my church who is a teacher at a public high school. Do I belive my buddist, muslim and jewish friends had a right to pray in school while we were in school? Heck yes. Does someone have the right to not pray? Yes and I had friends who went that way as well. What is wrong is someone telling someone when, where and how they can express their belifes, if they have them. You telling me to keep my God to myself when I am not pushing him on anyone is a direct violation of my Freedom of Speach and Religion.

Bob, a repeal was unneccesary at the time because it did sunset. The other laws are just pointing out which way the winds are blowing. Politicians at Federal levels are not blind and can see that. Third parties are going nowhere in America any time soon, so I will keep my opinion, as much as you resent the way things are.
 
I am from Texas. I intend to vote Republican for all but the governor. I am leaning on Strayhorn or Friedman who are both independents. Perry is just not the person that should be running Texas, not if you work for a living, not if you were born in the United States, and definately not if you a concerned parent.
 
Ite

He already crashed and burned on the prettiest bar fly there. Did you know we never completed the war there, we are still truce mode?Can you believe that? Lets finish it!
My earlier post had and error on the web site, here it is again. I want everybody to see this!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
 
Bob, for the record, I support GCA 1968. I can't think of many people whom I know that would be prohibited from owing guns under that statute that should. Mentally deffectives, criminals, illegal immigrants, fugitives from justice, etc... have no buisness having a gun. True, they can get them illegaly but as for my law-abiding self, I have no problem writting "no" in a few blanks on a peice of paper when I buy a gun. What are you hidding?

The only point that I disagree with is the "sporting use" clause. But then, it is the AFT that is pushing that to far.

Epyon

EDIT: After seeing your edited post, I have to say if you're not alarmed that the Republicans are trying to pass bills such as domestic spying, and secret detentions, unwarranted searches and siezures on AMERICAN citizens then I hope you feel comfortable being guilty until proven innocent.

Domestic spying has been happening since the dawn of the Cold War or before in both D and R "regimes", nothing new, get over it. Same thing with secret detentions, ever hear of Abraham Lincoln? Here is a hint, he's on the penny and the $5. Also known as the liberals favorite President(except for Slick Willie). Ever hear of him suspending Habeus Courpus? As for the rest, give me EXAMPLES so that I may thoroughly break down you argument.

I am not one of those that thinks the government knows best, but I am one who thinks the government knows better than you. Especialy after you make prejudical remarks assuming that just because I vote (R), belive in family values, and Christianity that I don't belive in others haivng their own opinion. You should be ashamed accusing me of being comfortable with guilty until proven innocent when you yourself judge me the same way!:barf:
 
Do I pick 'other/ won't vote' if I'm not planning on voting by party?
I'm voting for Leach for Congress (R) and Culver (D) for governor.
 
rhgunguy...

Epyon, did I pee in your Wheeties?

I belive in family values, it is not my fault or the governments fault that the divorce rate is about 60%. Keep in mind that that statistic is misleading(as are most statistics brought forth by those trying to prove something) 60% of people who marry don't get divorced, many are multiple divorcers. Furthermore, what has that got to do with anything?

Also, I did not say public prayer, it is just a little joke told to me by a member of my church who is a teacher at a public high school. Do I belive my buddist, muslim and jewish friends had a right to pray in school while we were in school? Heck yes. Does someone have the right to not pray? Yes and I had friends who went that way as well. What is wrong is someone telling someone when, where and how they can express their belifes, if they have them. You telling me to keep my God to myself when I am not pushing him on anyone is a direct violation of my Freedom of Speach and Religion.

I believe that family values starts with individuals, it shouldn't really be a party's job to promote it, that should be done at schools to begin with. Also, now that you've clarifed your take on public prayer in schools, it makes it more understandable. Most people who say "Let's have public prayer in schools" usually mean to lean for one faith and won't accept others. However, I also believe that worship has its time and place, and during school hours isn't okay for obvious reasons. What about before and after school hours on campus? I would think it's better because it's not cutting into anyone's learning time. Also, sorry if I came off as being pushy about keeping your diety to yourself, I mean "you" as in the general sense not aimed at you specifically.


Epyon

P.S: I don't eat Wheaties, so whoever's bowl you just peed in is probably P.O.ed!! :D :D :D
 
I'm voting to send my Congressman back to DC and voting to keep a former POS governor out of the Governor's Mansion who's running for a third term after a one term sit out and failed US Senate bid.
Somebody needs to give the SOB a job.
 
I vote Republican in every election; I can't stand anyone even associated with Democrats. But since all the politicans this year seem very crooked, I might stand outside of voting booth and ask if anyone wishes to buy my vote. It's the very least I can do...

:o
 
Surely you jest....

But since all the politicans this year seem very crooked

Aren't they like that EVERY year?:D Partyline politics, how absurd, people should really back candidates that are more likely to serve the people instead of the party/business agenda. As it was said in this thread, loyalty to the Constitution above all else.

Epyon
 
I will never vote for just a party. I will listen to each candidate and see if they have brains, integrity and a decent plan for dealing with what I think is important.

Thus, I won't vote for anybody in the next 20 years or so. :D

I'm not a one issue vote as there are several 'one issues' that are equally important and candidates can vary on them.

I will say if the GOP puts up someone like Bush again - and the Dem is no good - I'll sit it out.
 
Libertarian

Sorry, nothing any of you say will change my mind. On the ballot measures, I can makes some interesting discussions. For instance, here in Oregon, I will be voting against parental notification on abortion and yes on the state budget cap.
 
What are you hidding?

Where have I heard that question before? Oh yeah, that's the one they ask when they want to violate the 4th A. It's not a matter of hidding something, it's about being assumed guilty until one proves himself innocent. Some people value their privacy, some people (sheeple?) don't.

badreadmysigbob
 
Living in the peoples paradise of Illinois, my vote won't make a difference, though I will vote. The federal prosecutor has just indicted the governors close pal for using a state retirement fund in a huge pay for play scandal - and as usual - it will make no difference either - he has bancrupted the state and state pension funds - and nobody even cares. He is way ahead in all the polls and no one even suggests that he can/could lose.

I see a Democratic landslide in the election in Illinois and in the national elections. As soon as the presidential election comes in about 2 years, I see a democratic president. All that means for us in Illinois is that we will have more gun control statewide and locally and probably a permanent and more restrictive assault weapon ban nationwide.

Fasten your seatbelts - because gun control is going to come raging back after a period of relative calm - I fully expect - smart gun laws - ballistic gun and ammunition laws - new taxes - magazine bans - semiauto bans - the end of legal private sales - defacto registration laws and gun registration and tracking laws - fifty caliber bans - restrictive storage laws - and an attempted repeal of, or just out right ignoring of, the lawsuit reform law. There will be a blitz, blizzard, deluge of gun control laws the like of which this country has never seen. On the national, state, local (city) level, and lest I forget on the international level.

It does strike fear into me, knowing what is coming. Guess I better decide what to do with any guns I own before they are shortly made illegal here in Illinois.

I know I will no longer vote for any candidate of the democratic or republican parties - unless I am completely convinced that that individual supports all of the BOR- not just the popular ones. (I am aware of one indivdual politician affiliated with a major party who does support the whole bill of rights, but then he's not from Illinois of course). Frankly, I do not see anything that will improve this country in the short term. The people have chosen to cede the free exercise of their "bothersome" god given inalienable rights and responsibilties to professional politicians, bueracrats, corporations, and political bagmen.

Our children will live in a world of government/corporate granted privledges - smothered from birth and inculcated with an endless list of laws, regulations, and guidelines, that through selective and PC enforcement will train them to be and remain, good govt/corp drones.

Oh, happy happy day! :barf: :barf: :barf:

I think the real shocker in the poll is not the predominence of republicans, (to be expected on this forum), but the number of individuals who will vote third party. I think it points to the erosion of the republican party and the continued dis-enchantment of conservative and/or libertarian leaning voters. Looks like the republicans tried to walk the line and instead stepped off the cliff.
 
It seems more dems have lost due to their anti-gun stance in the last few years than for any other reason. I don't see a dem landslide in the near future, unless they put up some less divisive canidates, which I don't see them doing.

Go ahead with the Chicken Little approach of shouting "the sky is falling, the sky is falling", but I don't buy it.

Bob, how is answering simple questions on 4473 an invasion of privacy? If you don't like answering the questions, don't buy a new gun. Owing firearms is a privelage, not a right, same as driving. Do you read the people at the DMV the Riot Act when they ask for your social security #, name, weight and height?

It is simple: write "no" on all but the first and you got yourself another gun. I don't mind being asked if I am a fugitive from justice and what not, in fact I usualy have a laugh to myself at the stupidity of the questions.

You have to be a realist when it come to politics in America today:you are not going to get laws that most Americans agree with repealed and you are not going to see a third party canidate in any major office in the next few years.

Or you can scream "the sky is falling".;)
 
Owing firearms is a privelage, not a right, same as driving.
Wrong.
Rhgunguy, your assignment this evening is to go look up the 2nd Amendment and read it again. Last time I checked, there are no such constitutional guarantees, or other legal guarantees, pertaining to driving privileges.
 
Try and keep up. Rights are guaranteed to all. I did not say there were constitutional protections to driving, I said the exact opposite. Privileges must be earned and kept. You can loose your gun privileges. Simple fact, your first assignment is to ask a felon.:rolleyes:

The right to keep and bear arms may have started as a right, but now we have to deal with the fact that society is comfortable with gun ownership being limited to those who are not know to be felons, mentaly deffective, addicted to controled substances and the like. This is a democracy and the majority does rule. Amendments are not set in stone, they can be created and destroyed by vote.

Your second assignment tonight is to look up the process by which amendments can be added or taken away. That and not being so condecending.:rolleyes:
 
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