Hotel clerk shoots robber - Video

Quoted from MyXD40 "Shooting someone in the back is perfectly fine if they have a gun pointed at you while they are running away Good video. Hard to say what the scumbag was doing off camera.."

Bleeding would be my guess :).
 
:) Yeah, it's an old video. First time I saw it was quite awhile ago. This said:

Maybe there were cues that the robber was likely to shoot. It's tough when we can't hear audio and can't even see the bad guy until he's running away.

Nope, watch the video, the only cue that someone was about to start shooting comes from the man who got up out of his chair and walked behind a female coworker in order to shield his draw.

(How considerate!) :p

The clerk/gunman in this video placed 3 other people at severe risk: (1) The woman he used as a, ‘body shield’, (2) the woman standing right next to the robber, and (3) the baby in her arms.

That gunfight could have, ‘gone South’ in a heartbeat. People who carry deadly weapons need to be able to read other people very well. Otherwise they can turn your life or their own into an, ‘arcade shooting gallery’ at the slightest provocation.

Personally, I see no justifiable evidence for that clerk/gunman to open up with his G-23 at the moment when he did. Instead I see indications that the robber actually wasn’t ready to initiate a gun battle. All the bad guy wanted was the money; and, he proved it the instant the first shot was fired.

Videos like this annoy me because I see as much danger in them of having renewed calls to disarm the American public as I do from robbers with guns. Surely the thought has occurred to you that somewhere, high up in a government building, sitting in a posh corner office, is a high ranking bureaucratic official who regularly advises that the best way to ultimately disarm the American public is to give them all guns they want and, then, let them shoot each other to smithereens.

When the public outcry finally becomes loud enough an overwhelming majority of citizens (the, 'sheeple' who outnumber us by better than 20 to 1) will demand all guns be taken off the streets.

Videos that demonstrate ill-considered shooting incidents like this, only serve such a disadvantageous outcome. That clerk shouldn’t have started shooting until the bad guy clearly revealed an open hostile intent. If, 'Mr. Motel' is truly passionate about gunfighting, then, all he had to do is follow the robber outside – Heck, even barroom brawlers are man enough to do that! ;)

Lets think about this for a second. half the time, a robber will shoot a witness to prevent them from being able to ID them. A hotel 9pm at night, with a guy wearing a mask. Clearly up to no good. I'd rather get the upper hand in that kind of situation, because it's a 50/50 chance the guy will harm you in some way.

Yeah, where'd you get those statistics from? All I can say is; 'Outstanding personal judgment!' Ruthlessly gun down a mother, a middle-aged woman, and an overeager young man. (Do you think the BG would have let the baby have it, too?) Frankly, I don’t see any evidence, at all, of the bad guy trying to get over the counter – look behind it, maybe, but not getting ready to go over it.

I’ll give you this, though, IF he had attempted to jump the counter … well, then, I might have taken him in midair! I would have had the right angle and the necessary height needed to make the shot without endangering everyone else in the room; AND, I am good enough to put, at least, 3 into him before he hit the floor. (Not bragging - It's just what I do!)

Don’t like this video. The only lessons to be learned from it are, ‘what NOT to do’. (And, you know, lots of times it takes MORE courage NOT to immediately act than it does to just start shooting the way this clerk did. Clearly he had no regard for the safety or wellbeing of anyone else in the room except himself.) ;)
 
To me it looks like the clerk drew his weapon and the BG fired at him as you see the clerk duck down and then return fire. If you replay it over and over slowly you will see what I'm refering to. It was a good shoot. Can't understand why so many people on here blame the clerk as being in the wrong and takeing the Bg's side.:barf: If someone comes into your place of business with a gun then you have the right to defend yourself whether he's running away or not. Because by bringing a gun into rob you he's already commited to useing violence to get what he wants.
 
Personally, I see no justifiable evidence for that clerk/gunman to open up with his G-23 at the moment when he did. Instead I see indications that the robber actually wasn’t ready to initiate a gun battle.

That's kind of what I said, actually -- I don't "see" anything either. Quite importantly, none of us can "hear" anything. Also, if demands are made at some point, we can't see it because the robber is off the screen.

Who knows what he said. If he said, "I'm going to kill you all and take the money," shooting is quite justified.

I'm not arguing that he's entirely justified... I'm arguing that there could well be extenuating elements of the situation that are not clear in the video.

Preponderance of the evidence points to it being hasty on the part of the clerk. But it's not 100% certain.

-Jephthai-
 
That clerk shouldn’t have started shooting until the bad guy clearly revealed an open hostile intent

You're kidding me, right? :eek:

Soon as the guy presented a gun and demanded money, that tells me he 'clearly revealed open hostile intent'.

Not too long ago a bank robber went in and simply shot two tellers, THEN demanded money. Now I don't know if they did things different back in the 'old days', but I've been hearing more reports of BG's actually USING these things, before and after the holdup.

Like I said, I think the only issue here was being so close to the little kid. But he had pretty damn good control if you ask me.
 
half the time, a robber will shoot a witness to prevent them from being able to ID them.

Boy, there must be a lot of dead robbery witnesses somewhere to make up for all of the living one's in my neck of the woods. It is very rare for robberies in end with witnesses being shot. There was one in NYC a few years ago at a Wendy's (it was long enough ago that the guy just got the appeal of his death sentence heard), and that's the last one I remember hearing about in this state.
 
oh and newrguy, I said they shoot to prevent ID, never said killed. Altho theres the times where sad enough, the person does die from a stabbing or gun shot
 
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