Double Naught Spy
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No. They are not.
Home Invasions on the Rise
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No. They are not.
Worth repeating
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" Some theives actually drive around late at night before garbage pickups. They're looking for new computer boxes, HDTV packaging or other high-ticket item packaging. They then often target that home for a daytime burglary. "
This is one of the first rules of city living, but should be practiced no matter where you live. I used to live in a city, but now reside in the quieter suburbs, and I see this all the time. Destroy the boxes, fold them inside out and bag them, better yet, take them to a recycling dumpster AWAY from your house. Don't advertise your new purchase to the world, and any potential thieves.
Another thing to add is to NOT have your name on your mailbox or house. It makes it much easier for a smart thief to call information and get your phone number, thereby being able to call the house and see if anyone/who is home....
Quote:
" Some theives actually drive around late at night before garbage pickups. They're looking for new computer boxes, HDTV packaging or other high-ticket item packaging. They then often target that home for a daytime burglary. "
This is one of the first rules of city living, but should be practiced no matter where you live. I used to live in a city, but now reside in the quieter suburbs, and I see this all the time. Destroy the boxes, fold them inside out and bag them, better yet, take them to a recycling dumpster AWAY from your house. Don't advertise your new purchase to the world, and any potential thieves.
Another thing to add is to NOT have your name on your mailbox or house. It makes it much easier for a smart thief to call information and get your phone number, thereby being able to call the house and see if anyone/who is home....
Daugherty16
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Home Invasions - Need any more reason to CCW?
I read one post one time where the author said, "If i'm dressed, i'm carrying". And i thought it rather extreme at the time. Then we had a gruesome home invasion only three towns over, where the wife and two daughters were roasted alive in their home by two recently released felons who torched the place to conceal their crime. If only the wife had carried a little piece in her pocket book - how different might that story have ended?
So i got my CCW. I explained it to my wife like this: I'm older now, and less able to physically defend myself (not much less, but it's continual slide down that path...), and times have changed so that weapons are often carried by bad guys, not just sometimes, so i needed an equalizer; and home invasions are on the rise and we live in a nice rich little town where the perception is of fat, rich liberals for residents. and nothing scares me in this world more than the idea of BG having their way with my beautiful wife or kids and being unable to do anything about it. at least carrying, i have an answer. It's only one answer, and may not be enough, but it's a start until i can grab the Mossberg.
This year alone, in my little town there have been 1 armed robbery at a jewlelry store and 2 home invasions. If the world is going nuts, then i'm going armed.
I read one post one time where the author said, "If i'm dressed, i'm carrying". And i thought it rather extreme at the time. Then we had a gruesome home invasion only three towns over, where the wife and two daughters were roasted alive in their home by two recently released felons who torched the place to conceal their crime. If only the wife had carried a little piece in her pocket book - how different might that story have ended?
So i got my CCW. I explained it to my wife like this: I'm older now, and less able to physically defend myself (not much less, but it's continual slide down that path...), and times have changed so that weapons are often carried by bad guys, not just sometimes, so i needed an equalizer; and home invasions are on the rise and we live in a nice rich little town where the perception is of fat, rich liberals for residents. and nothing scares me in this world more than the idea of BG having their way with my beautiful wife or kids and being unable to do anything about it. at least carrying, i have an answer. It's only one answer, and may not be enough, but it's a start until i can grab the Mossberg.
This year alone, in my little town there have been 1 armed robbery at a jewlelry store and 2 home invasions. If the world is going nuts, then i'm going armed.
dabigguns357
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As i have said before i do carry at all times and every where.But if you want to feel safer at home then get you a nanny cam,pin hole camera.they range from 30.00 dollars to 80.00.So all you have to do is flip your bedroom tv or livingroom tv over to video to see who in on your porch.I keep my monitor up and on record 24/7.I turn my cam to face the front door to see everyone from the knees up.
wow..
scare the hell out of me why don't ya..
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We had a "phantom doorbell ring" the other night about 9:30. I checked things out carefully but didn't see anything. The neighbors down the street indicated that some kids had been playing around so I wrote it off. The interesting thing is that the next day our next door neighbors were out so I asked them if they had heard anything. He responded that he hadn't heard anything and then related a story from 3 years earlier.
At about 1:30AM there was a knock/doorbell ring. He, being of sound mind, retrieved a firearm and then carefully looked out a window that had a view of the porch. He didn't recognize the person at the door, and again, being of sound mind, didn't open the door. He simply waited and watched. After awhile the man on the doorstep turned to leave and at that point his accomplice who had been hiding around the corner joined him as he walked away.
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this is the main reason i bought a gun.. To much of this is going on..
I have spoken with my neighbors who are a bit chicken.. I told them, trying to make plans, if i call em, there is a problem.. Much like the issue above... I wanted them to know where My family would be so they could send led my way at the jerks knocking on my door.. if i wasn't in any position to move.....
I will be in X location at the time of my 1:30 AM phone call.. just start unloading... we will be out of the way..
I will take the silence that they are gone
I have a pt140 now.. I was/am looking at the JUGDE now...
my wife saw me checking out this little puppy..
http://usautoweapons.com/pgs/ShowItem?ID=634
I like sending led in directions though walls not having to worry about much, just staying out of the way....
I am in 2 story house.. so any aim will be down and not across the street.. My wife thinks I am nuts to be planning stuff like this out... But reading this.. makes it more of a reality than Most would like to accept..
I am hearing stories like this almost weekly now...
scare the hell out of me why don't ya..
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We had a "phantom doorbell ring" the other night about 9:30. I checked things out carefully but didn't see anything. The neighbors down the street indicated that some kids had been playing around so I wrote it off. The interesting thing is that the next day our next door neighbors were out so I asked them if they had heard anything. He responded that he hadn't heard anything and then related a story from 3 years earlier.
At about 1:30AM there was a knock/doorbell ring. He, being of sound mind, retrieved a firearm and then carefully looked out a window that had a view of the porch. He didn't recognize the person at the door, and again, being of sound mind, didn't open the door. He simply waited and watched. After awhile the man on the doorstep turned to leave and at that point his accomplice who had been hiding around the corner joined him as he walked away.
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this is the main reason i bought a gun.. To much of this is going on..
I have spoken with my neighbors who are a bit chicken.. I told them, trying to make plans, if i call em, there is a problem.. Much like the issue above... I wanted them to know where My family would be so they could send led my way at the jerks knocking on my door.. if i wasn't in any position to move.....
I will be in X location at the time of my 1:30 AM phone call.. just start unloading... we will be out of the way..
I will take the silence that they are gone
I have a pt140 now.. I was/am looking at the JUGDE now...
my wife saw me checking out this little puppy..
http://usautoweapons.com/pgs/ShowItem?ID=634
I like sending led in directions though walls not having to worry about much, just staying out of the way....
I am in 2 story house.. so any aim will be down and not across the street.. My wife thinks I am nuts to be planning stuff like this out... But reading this.. makes it more of a reality than Most would like to accept..
I am hearing stories like this almost weekly now...
I know its fiction, but I think the Death Wish movies with Charles Bronson should be required viewing by all... Watched 1 and 2 over the weekend and I realized if anything like that happened in front of me to people I care about, I could never live with myself...
Bad guys exist... no reason not to be prepared
Bad guys exist... no reason not to be prepared
glockman19
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When Home I keep the "chime" function on. If a door or window contact is broken it chimes.
Caeser2001
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or just walk in.
Breakins
A couple years ago, we left the house for church - same time every week. My youngest son (19 years old) remained behind due to the flu. My wife didn't lock the door when she left since we live in the boonies and my son was home About fifteen minutes after we left, My son was awaken (sleeping upstairs in the family room - balcony overlooking the living area) by someone coming through the front door. As he quietly peered over the balcony from a discreet location, he saw the guy walking through the living room area. There was the house 12 gauge 870 nearby so he laid the gun over the railing and racked one in the chamber. The guy looked up and stopped. My son asked if he could help him. The guy turned and ran out of the house in a flash. My son slowly proceede downstairs making sure no one else was in the house. as he looked out the front door a pickup truck with the tailgate down was leaving our drive in a rather speedy fashion. My son later said the only thing he thought about at the time was the mess this guys bodily fluids would make on his mothers piano (guy stopped in front of the piana) should he need to defend himself.
Later, while talking to a neighbor down the road, he told of a rash of breakins
nearby. I hope this encounter ended this guys career.
A couple years ago, we left the house for church - same time every week. My youngest son (19 years old) remained behind due to the flu. My wife didn't lock the door when she left since we live in the boonies and my son was home About fifteen minutes after we left, My son was awaken (sleeping upstairs in the family room - balcony overlooking the living area) by someone coming through the front door. As he quietly peered over the balcony from a discreet location, he saw the guy walking through the living room area. There was the house 12 gauge 870 nearby so he laid the gun over the railing and racked one in the chamber. The guy looked up and stopped. My son asked if he could help him. The guy turned and ran out of the house in a flash. My son slowly proceede downstairs making sure no one else was in the house. as he looked out the front door a pickup truck with the tailgate down was leaving our drive in a rather speedy fashion. My son later said the only thing he thought about at the time was the mess this guys bodily fluids would make on his mothers piano (guy stopped in front of the piana) should he need to defend himself.
Later, while talking to a neighbor down the road, he told of a rash of breakins
nearby. I hope this encounter ended this guys career.
I had an attempted break in once. And I called 911, but first I called 1-9-1-1.
Seriously though, I've been a C/O for 16 years and I know how these guys think. They seek defenseless people. When a few of them get shot up then the rest decide it's not worth the gamble.
Basically the criminal makes the same calculation as a business man or a gambler, a cost/risk/benefit analysis. So they figure they might get caught, what are those odds? Then even if they get caught they only might get prosecuted, What's that risk? They might get prison time, been there with their dudes and it ain't so bad. Those are acceptable odds often. Then you through in " I might die here, today and right now, that's a deal breaker for most. It throws their cost/risk/benefit analysis way to one side.
Now when they are intoxicated they take chances that would otherwise be avoided. Why do you think they want you drunk in Vegas?
Seriously though, I've been a C/O for 16 years and I know how these guys think. They seek defenseless people. When a few of them get shot up then the rest decide it's not worth the gamble.
Basically the criminal makes the same calculation as a business man or a gambler, a cost/risk/benefit analysis. So they figure they might get caught, what are those odds? Then even if they get caught they only might get prosecuted, What's that risk? They might get prison time, been there with their dudes and it ain't so bad. Those are acceptable odds often. Then you through in " I might die here, today and right now, that's a deal breaker for most. It throws their cost/risk/benefit analysis way to one side.
Now when they are intoxicated they take chances that would otherwise be avoided. Why do you think they want you drunk in Vegas?
Caeser2001
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sometimes I the mail only makes it to the front of the driveway.
Caeser2001
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it's a shame that the law would be on the criminals side when coming to the aid of an elderly neighbor when seconds count and the cops are minutes away
. I know from previous experience in the above situation when the cop asked why I didn't stay in my homeLangenator
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Something to think about for any service members out there...nothing screams your wife is home alone like one of those "Half My Heart Is In Iraq/Afghanistan" stickers.
Blue stars say the same thing, just not quite as loud.
PSA courtesy of the Ft Bragg ParaGlide newspaper and Ft Bragg Provost Marshall's office.
I was TDY a few hours from home three years ago, and my wife, pregnant with #2 at the time, was home with our then 18 month old son. It was getting close to the due date, and she started having some problems, so my CO sent me home. After putting my son to bed that night, I went out to retrieve my rifle from the car (there was a rifle range at the TDY location), still wearing my carry piece (which was no longer concealed since I was home.)
While I was getting the rifle out of the trunk, I noticed an older Ford Ranger pickup parked across and up the street a little ways, with two people inside. As I pulled the rifle out and headed back inside, the truck started up, turned on the lights, and drove away.
Pretty sure I deterred something bad.
Not trying to take the thread too far off course but.... How many of you know how well your doors are secured?
I checked mine a while back and all the hinges and striker plates were secured with 1/2" screws...
I replaced them all withen short order with 3" decking screws.
I also added a 1/8"x2"x2' piece of flat bar (lowes) to the striker side of the door jamb.
That takes up some of the gap between your door and the frame. Mine had a gap of almost 1/2" and left less than 1/4" of deadbolt catching its plate.
The longer flatbar also strengthens it by putting the load over a wider area... 12 3" screws holding it rather than only 4 on the original plates.
I checked mine a while back and all the hinges and striker plates were secured with 1/2" screws...
I replaced them all withen short order with 3" decking screws.
I also added a 1/8"x2"x2' piece of flat bar (lowes) to the striker side of the door jamb.
That takes up some of the gap between your door and the frame. Mine had a gap of almost 1/2" and left less than 1/4" of deadbolt catching its plate.
The longer flatbar also strengthens it by putting the load over a wider area... 12 3" screws holding it rather than only 4 on the original plates.
Honestly guys, after reading some of these posts, I'm glad I live where I do, out in the "country".
My cars are out in front of the house, never locked, usually with my wallet in one of them. Can leave the house to go into town and forget to lock the house doors and never a problem. I know most of my neighbors, and when we moved here, we're invited to the "family" summer picnic next door (the road I live on is named after the family up the hill from us). Neghbor let me use his ZTR mower when he saw taking 7 days to cut the front lawn with a push mower, and in return, I let him use my mower (after I finally bought one) after his broke down. Heck, I even hike to my bow stand in the morning.
That said, up in the largest town in the county (population 3k) the law recently caught the perps of a "crime ring" where they were breaking in and stealing from the local businesses.
Guess my point is that people being people, you will always have people who are willing to break the law and perhaps do harms to others to gain in their own agenda. That's a fact and we'll always have people like that.
However, like I said before, I am happy with my choice for my home and think I would go nutz if I had to live in a real city (before you go thinking me a real big hick, I use to work in D.C and some other major metropolitan areas on the east coast).
My cars are out in front of the house, never locked, usually with my wallet in one of them. Can leave the house to go into town and forget to lock the house doors and never a problem. I know most of my neighbors, and when we moved here, we're invited to the "family" summer picnic next door (the road I live on is named after the family up the hill from us). Neghbor let me use his ZTR mower when he saw taking 7 days to cut the front lawn with a push mower, and in return, I let him use my mower (after I finally bought one) after his broke down. Heck, I even hike to my bow stand in the morning.
That said, up in the largest town in the county (population 3k) the law recently caught the perps of a "crime ring" where they were breaking in and stealing from the local businesses.
Guess my point is that people being people, you will always have people who are willing to break the law and perhaps do harms to others to gain in their own agenda. That's a fact and we'll always have people like that.
However, like I said before, I am happy with my choice for my home and think I would go nutz if I had to live in a real city (before you go thinking me a real big hick, I use to work in D.C and some other major metropolitan areas on the east coast).
