Home Invasion Turns Deadly Right Down The Road
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dabigguns357
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And this is why i set up security camera's and carry at home at all times.
Actually, we have no idea how many rounds were needed. We do know (from other articles) that two rounds were fired and struck one of the invaders who died. It may have been that the invaders would have left once they saw the gun or after just one shot being fired.
Yes, but the OP asked for thoughts on the face value of the article, not analysis of incomplete information.
Yes, but the OP asked for thoughts on the face value of the article, not analysis of incomplete information.
Double Naught Spy,
The linked article only described the firearm as: "a .22-caliber rifle".
That could be anything from a bolt action .22 rim fire to an AR15 which fires a 5.56x39 center fire cartridge which is much more powerful. Also, the AR15 is often referred to by the "antis" as an Assault Weapon! OMG!
We should not assume what the weapon was. The article should identify it. I'd like to know if an "Assault Weapon" was used to defend a home. If so, it would be nice to use this information when someone states that assault weapons are useless to law abiding people. But I can't because the article does not tell us what the rifle was.
I would like to know how the invaders gained entry. Might learn something from someone's mistake.
The article does state: "The 15-year-old will not be charged because his actions are considered justifiable homicide, according to sheriff’s Capt. Steve Morris." I am not a reporter. But, I have seen reporters dig for more from authorities to get more than a statement. I would like to know the reasoning behind this. I live in Georgia and would like all the information I can get of this type, that I don't have to spend blood or money to get.
The article did answer who, when and where; but in my opinion failed to answer what and why.
What was the weapon used to defend the home?
Why did the sheriff's department decide this was a justified shooting?
I am not passing judgment on the actions of the people involved in the shooting. I really want to know those facts about this incident.
The linked article only described the firearm as: "a .22-caliber rifle".
That could be anything from a bolt action .22 rim fire to an AR15 which fires a 5.56x39 center fire cartridge which is much more powerful. Also, the AR15 is often referred to by the "antis" as an Assault Weapon! OMG!
We should not assume what the weapon was. The article should identify it. I'd like to know if an "Assault Weapon" was used to defend a home. If so, it would be nice to use this information when someone states that assault weapons are useless to law abiding people. But I can't because the article does not tell us what the rifle was.
I would like to know how the invaders gained entry. Might learn something from someone's mistake.
The article does state: "The 15-year-old will not be charged because his actions are considered justifiable homicide, according to sheriff’s Capt. Steve Morris." I am not a reporter. But, I have seen reporters dig for more from authorities to get more than a statement. I would like to know the reasoning behind this. I live in Georgia and would like all the information I can get of this type, that I don't have to spend blood or money to get.
The article did answer who, when and where; but in my opinion failed to answer what and why.
What was the weapon used to defend the home?
Why did the sheriff's department decide this was a justified shooting?
I am not passing judgment on the actions of the people involved in the shooting. I really want to know those facts about this incident.
Yes, thanks - that is the kind of thing I was remembering. I didn't read that book or the Tempe Study, but it sounds like it parallels the material I read. I have been swamped and haven't had a chance to find a link. These kind of findings, along with the scenario of a fleeing person taking pot shots over their shoulder, make it plain that is an oversimplification to think that you can't shoot someone in the back in self defense.
matthew261
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Sounds like a justified shooting to me. Stand your ground laws and castle laws were implemented for just such scenarios.
As for around the house carry, I always have at least my NA Arms .22 magnum in my pocket and many times a .357 magnum J-frame. Waking hours home invasions are on the rise around here.
As for around the house carry, I always have at least my NA Arms .22 magnum in my pocket and many times a .357 magnum J-frame. Waking hours home invasions are on the rise around here.
Onward Allusion
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Missed the big smiley, eh?
armoredman
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Mr Brown will be turning up very shortly on national television in front of a Congressional committee asking that he be provided a bullet resistant vest so as to level the playing field in his particular line of endeavor.
Good shooting, young man, I hope he works through any trauma quickly.
Good shooting, young man, I hope he works through any trauma quickly.
Double Naught Spy
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Got it, Mello2u. The article represents a low standard of journalism because it doesn't answer all the questions you have.
It is interesting to look over various historic events, criminal reports, etc. and come up with questions not addressed they way we would have liked, or in the reporter's/officer's presentation of information to answer certain questions, we are spurred to consider additional questions which are not answered. That is a kind of nature of the beast. Only you can come up with answers to all of your questions and regardless of how thorough somebody else reports information, there are always going to be questions.
Did you notice from the article that there is still an open investigation? The lack of information you want isn't necessarily the fault of journalists either. Law enforcement has a long history of only repleasing limited information and sometimes repleasing incorrect information. This is especially true of open cases.
Once again, the weapon used was a .22 rifle. The the information isn't sufficient to support your assault weapon agenda probably isn't a concern of the police, reporter, or others.
As for why the sheriff's department considered the shooting justified, I don't understand what it is that you are clear on in this matter? You have a forced entry home invasion by multiple people and the renter's son shoots and kills one of the invaders and you don't know what it is justified?
Of course you could have looked at the article and noted that it was days old when posted here. You could have simple pulled out some of the key words such as the names mentioned in the article and Googled them or searched the same newspaper to see if there was new information. You might have been surprised by some of it. For example...
http://newstimes.augusta.com/latest-news/2012-03-04/three-arrests-made-in-fatal-martinez-burglary
It is interesting to look over various historic events, criminal reports, etc. and come up with questions not addressed they way we would have liked, or in the reporter's/officer's presentation of information to answer certain questions, we are spurred to consider additional questions which are not answered. That is a kind of nature of the beast. Only you can come up with answers to all of your questions and regardless of how thorough somebody else reports information, there are always going to be questions.
Did you notice from the article that there is still an open investigation? The lack of information you want isn't necessarily the fault of journalists either. Law enforcement has a long history of only repleasing limited information and sometimes repleasing incorrect information. This is especially true of open cases.
Once again, the weapon used was a .22 rifle. The the information isn't sufficient to support your assault weapon agenda probably isn't a concern of the police, reporter, or others.
As for why the sheriff's department considered the shooting justified, I don't understand what it is that you are clear on in this matter? You have a forced entry home invasion by multiple people and the renter's son shoots and kills one of the invaders and you don't know what it is justified?
Of course you could have looked at the article and noted that it was days old when posted here. You could have simple pulled out some of the key words such as the names mentioned in the article and Googled them or searched the same newspaper to see if there was new information. You might have been surprised by some of it. For example...
http://newstimes.augusta.com/latest-news/2012-03-04/three-arrests-made-in-fatal-martinez-burglary
Stevie-Ray
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I don't. I don't much care as long as LE decided justification. It's clear there were uninvited strangers with ill-intent in the home. I see a happy ending here, as long as the kid is OK with it. I won't get into how much happier it could have been.