Home invasion escape plan

Leave the escape plan for the BG, hold your position in the bedroom where you planned. You know the layout better...make him /her come to you...or hopefully grow a brain and leave.

No way would I subject myself to the added danger of whomever might be outside...unless they set fire to the place.
 
Quite obviously, as put best by Winston Churchill, "If you are going through hell, keep going!" First priority should always be escape from danger.

That said, the "escape plan" poses an interesting question when you consider that, in Tennessee, we have the Castle Doctrine. Therefore, it is FAR easier to justify shooting someone if you and the intruder are in your home. There is a PRESUMPTION that you're justified. But, if you retreat into the street, are chased, and kill the intruder while out in the road, you have to go through the trouble of proving "reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily injury."

So, as a sub-question to the "escape plan" question, I ask: Is it better to stand your ground in your home, or to attempt to leave your home to get away?
 
The instructor told her the best thing to do in case of a home invasion at night is stay in the bedroom, look out the window for additional BGs, then climb out the window if it's clear and call the cops.
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That so called "instructor" should find another line of work. If one does not have a working cell phone then get one of the giveaway cell phones that can still be used to call 911.


No way would I subject myself to the added danger of whomever might be outside...unless they set fire to the place.
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So, as a sub-question to the "escape plan" question, I ask: Is it better to stand your ground in your home, or to attempt to leave your home to get away?
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You have permission to be in your home, the BG don't! Stay there...if you wind up outside, there will be questions. Were you really trying to escape, or did you follow the BG with intent on killing them? Courts can make it look pretty bad on you for leaving the safety of your home, and "taking it to the streets". Sad but true.
 
Here is my plan Alarm will go off, wife and I will arm ourselves and close the door and lock it. Wife will call 911 from he cell as the alarm company calls the police. We wait, if the BG want to come though the bed room then first it is me 12ga and 40 cal then my wife has 357 and ability to reload either 12ga or 40.

Odds are the alarm and our four dog will slow or make them think twice before moving to our bedroom.

If we are awake in our home then wife and I move the bedroom. Once we have kids they will be taught to go to our room. And once the children are of age they will be taught good solid firearm education and what to do. Being prepare and aware of the surroundings does not make you paranoid only ready for a day that I hope never comes.

No state or govt has a right to say your are not to defend your home and our love ones. We as citizen need to ensure that to our children and grandchildren. It is our duty.
 
This was on the news. Police raided the wrong house by mistake. An elderly woman in the house fired at the door as they were bursting in. They shot her 5 times and killed her.
 
I'm not so sure this is a good idea from a legal defense standpoint, unless I follow up by dragging the body inside the house.
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It might be legally defensible, but puts you in a really bad place for the civil case. And dragging a body inside is a pretty good way to change a legitimate self-defense situation into a blatant criminal event. NEVER alter a crime scene unless necessary for safety.
 
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I dont have kids at home anymore so the only thing out of the bedroom i worry about is pets . Colorado was famous for the " make my day law " some years ago and it does not reach to the new " castle doctrine " laws in many states . Statute here is basically the reasonable man doctrine . That means if a " reasonable man " would be in fear for his/her life shooting is permissible. I cant shoot someone for trespass, but by the same token if me and family retreat to a room and call the cops i can shoot anyone who attempts to enter our safe room . If i get up in the night and discover a burgler well if i can explain that a common man would be in fear of assault resulting in grave injury or death ( colorado jurys so far have held breaking in can establish this fear ) i may shoot such a disadvantaged person . Tx took stuff an order of magnitude larger in they basicly state you can shoot thieves . and have enacted laws to protect this premise ( Joe Horn was no billed there and here the best he could have looked for would be manslaughter ) . To the OP tho , MY state does not require me to " escape " if possible . It rather requires me to stay within the " reasonable man " doctrine . which is pretty much common sense . If they kick your door in while you are watching tv well they mean you no good . If they kick your door in at 3 AM well they really mean you no good . If you are in fear for your life you may use whatever you need to to defend yourself . We dont as a rule have home invasions in colorado . We still have crime . but the " burglers " make sure the homeowner is not there , and due to gunsafes they dont take a large collection often .
 
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When you know that a bad guy is attacking your house why cant you set upn a strong defensive point with something like a belt fed machine gun, or even a tommy gun- that would really give them a surprise and be sure to use high velocity rounds that will hurt badly even if the Bad Guy has body armour. Personally i would get at the top of the staris, as this gives a good viewpoint and hit them hard with everything - tommy gun, shotgun pistol any other firearm thatn you happen to have as soon as they get into the house then if their still standing go after them with a tommy, or substitute,gun and bush-wack them as soon as you get a chance. Of course you could take the simple route and leave fenn traps lyimng around so by tyhe screams you know where the bad guys are and can hit them accordingly
 
When you know that a bad guy is attacking your house why cant you set upn a strong defensive point with something like a belt fed machine gun
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:rolleyes: Rarely if ever are you going to know when you'll be attacked, and few people have belt fed machine guns or tommy guns.

All those stray bullets flying at your neighbors...and the police will be hauling you off.:rolleyes:
 
When you know that a bad guy is attacking your house why cant you set upn a strong defensive point with something like a belt fed machine gun, or even a tommy gun
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My home simply isn't set up well for defending. We're on second floor, two other kids in upstairs bedrooms, but we have one kid in a bedroom at the opposite end of the first floor. There's really no options for changing that setup. We have a lease and can't have a dog. As most of you know, there's simply no good way to go down stairs without exposing yourself. One thing that works both for us and against us is that with the old floors in this place there's no way to navigate much of the house without squeaking floorboards. It's not noticeable during the day, but during a quiet night it's very noticeable. Fortunately, we're in a pretty good neighborhood, but I have no illusions that provides any assurances. We should be mostly "kid-free" within a few years, so we expect to move to a smaller house at that point we'll keep security in mind.
 
Well I know in my state for a long time you had to flee from your own home.... and could be prosecuted for killing the perp in your own home. That has changed or so i have heard but dont know the extent of it.

First of all if you have dogs most burglars wont come close to you unless they are Pros. Draws too much attention to what they are doing. If they are pros they wont do the job while you are home because they want to get the most out of your home if they have cased the place and if they are pros believe me they have done their homework.

I agree with a good defense... call 911 and give them as much detailed information as possible. Let them know where you are and that you are armed so when they come through the door they dont shoot you or you shoot them.

The main thing is a plan of action for the whole family. If you have kids they should know what to do if that situation arises. Just like a fire plan ... have a central meeting place... and a secondary incase you cant get to the primary. Get to know your neighbors so if you or your kids get separated and have to leave the house you can go and pound on a door somewhere for help and have them dial 911 as well.

Escape is an option ... I like gathering and defending yourself better. Have to do whatever will keep you from harm both staying or going.
 
I have 2 dogs <dobe and a sheperd>and 3 cats...and two parakeets. The dogs are well-trained and they let me know if somebody or something is on the property well before any possible break-in. My dobe starts to whine if somebody is at the driveway<long way away...>and my shepherd stays quiet, but is ready and waiting. They aren't mean dogs; it's just their nature to be aware about what's going on. While it's possible a home invasion might put the dogs at risk, the dogs are quite formidable - and any burglar with just a bit of common sense would be wise to steer clear of'em. The cat's? Oh my, I feel sorry for the burglar in my house ie. 3 cats running amuck trying to hide while a dobe and a shepherd get all excited...and the parakeets start sqwawking...
and then their's my wife with her iron skillet and a .38 snubbie...and me with my .25acp.:D
 
As the title says - "Home Invasion Escape plan".

There are times when it may be advisable to evac & evade. Having one intruder is bad enough. Two is downright scary. But if you have more than that (for whatever reason), there's a high degree of danger.

Having a plan for the wife & kids to escape whilst you perform the rear-guard action may be prudent. At least you'll have thought things out ahead of time and know what to do or where to go.

For some folks, it's a no-go. You can't get out without being seen or risking further danger. For others, it may be easier to slip outside undetected and then flee to the nearest (ideally armed) neighbor.

Here in California, we've seen a number of home-invasion style robberies in the past. Usually in the Asian immigrant community. They use 3 to 6 people to invade, terrorize and take what they want. Sometimes people are hurt, sometimes not. Some do end up dead. So the idea of a 3 or 6 man "team" is not improbable.

Like Stephen426 my primary exit is a glass door and it puts me visible to anyone in the living room/dining room area. The next best bet is to exit thru the garage, however the noise of the door opener would draw ill-intent intruders too quickly.

Unless the house is on fire or people are shooting the pets, furniture & walls, the best bet is to hunker down and remain in a defensible position. If possible or necessary, push the bed or other furniture to block the door and defend the entries to the room.

If I can tell there are multiple intruders (who aren't yelling "Police!"), my preference is a defensible position from the bedroom and not be shy about ammo usage. I figure the noise will certainly get the neighbors' attention (especially after shooting out the glass door).
 
I have small children in my home and their bedroom is between mine and the doors. I am going to attack with a cold-blooded ruthlessness that would make Genghis Kahn go :eek:.

If you break into my house while I am in it, YOU WILL DIE!!! I do not plan to escape.
 
It is MY home not the Govt either state or fed. It is MY life not the state or fed. I will protect both with deadly force if need be. Liberals can kiss my ass for being aggressive. No reasonable man wants to kill another. But if it comes down to me or you, then hell I love myself to much. A thief can have my belongings but my love ones (including dogs) and our lives they cannot have.

Any state which violates the consitution is in violation of the law. If I must run from my home then my rights to persue happiness and a complete life have been violated also. Most states have changed this dumb law and allowed defending oneself in their home. Common sense to me, and to most.
 
By staying put in your own home and calling 911 you hold the best cards. If you are in a bedroom, stay there and keep the lights turned off. You know better than any "visitor" to your home, where the walls, doors, windows, furniture, squeaky floors, etc. happen to be. With the lights out the univited guest(s) will be the ones stumbing around in the dark, bumping into things while you wait unseen.

If they turn on the lights you still have the advantage of knowing the layout, and you can wait at the ready to see if they advance to your position. If you have called 911 immediately the clock is counting down in your favor.

In my case, the perimeter doors and windows are alarmed so if there is a break in that call will go out to police in addition to my 911 call. The alarm siren is so piercing that I can't stand it more than a few seconds when I am testing it. So while I am upstairs, in the dark, behind closed doors, armed to the teeth; there is an intruder downstairs in the dark, with the siren from hell going off, and the law on the way. I'm betting they exit quickly, but if they still advance on my position that siren will be the last thing they hear.
 
At no time of the day are all of the dogs in one place in our house except by coincidence. If someone breaks in, at least some of the dogs will be involved. Now, do I sit in my room and hope how ever many dogs are in the fight can controll the situation, or do I add some more dogs and some firepower while the BGs are rather busy trying not to get torn apart?
 
If you think running down a hall towards armed inviduals is a good plan when you have other options which may be better in saving YOUR life - then it's your choice.
 
A good dog can be a good ounce of prevention - and a well-trained good dog can be a friendly 24/7 security guard. Anecdotal: I know of a local country store where a man some years ago came in and attempted an armed robbery. He didn't pay enough attention to the store owner's well-trained shepherd that was laying quietly on the floor behind the counter. The bad guy blinked...and in the blink of an eye he lost his gun and needed about 150 stitches. My dogs are well-trained and they have better instincts/reflexes than I do in a crisis.;)


Dogs, Cell Phones, access to a firearm - can all work well. Plan of escape?
The best laid plans can fall to ruin. It's good to keep options open - and not have a 'plan' that is too tight or confining. Cell Phones are wonderful. I don't have children in the house or children that visit...so I can afford to keep a few things stashed in places<including cell phones>that might come in handy. It's nothing interfering with one's lifestyle...but there's no area of the house where I would feel 'trapped.'


Surveillance systems are great too. In fact, I'd say 'prevention' is key. Escape plans are okay, but one gets more bang for the buck with $ and time spent on prevention. If someone breaks in while I'm in the house asleep - the first prevention is to have something that will will make sure I'm alerted in time to the break-in. Makes no sense to have an escape plan, if I won't even know if somebody has broken in and invaded. If somebody is on top of me, then any escape plan sorta flies out the window. My Home is My Castle and the Castle Doctrine applies... ;) I wouldn't mind having a good moat.
 
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