Hollywood Video Games and HD/SD

Even children can be surprisingly good at sorting Fact from Fantasy- if they are of a sufficient mental capacity

In my opinion, it's not "Hollywood" or "Video Games" that influence this sort of thing. It's the intelligence of the person considering it that plays a larger role. If you're so dense as to believe that Hollywood movies or Video Games or TV shows are reflections of real life cause and effect, then you're getting fooled about a LOT more than just firearms.

Then there's the people that just want to believe a thing because they like the thing, and they want to believe it so much, they convince themselves its true, facts be damned, they are right.

In my opinion, the idea of popular media as Fact is a huge problem. TVs raise kids, people think movies are documentaries if they are set in an historical period
 
shafter, I'm not so much worried about this guy..
as I am the 6'5" 275lb punk who counted on a football scholarship as his ride in life, and didn't get it, now on the street, meth/coked up, taking out his frustrations on the world as he sees fit.
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While drugs sometimes make an attacker less aware of their injury and thus able to continue an attack physical size does not. Someone who is 240 lbs and shot is no better off than someone who is 150 lbs and is shot.

Do you have any proof that this is the case?

I don't know if it's from video games or movies but a lot of people have an unrealistic view of the effectiveness of certain rounds. Some people seem to hold the view that the .45 ACP will knock someone back several feet while a 9mm will bounce off them and they'll keep coming. Also regarding rifle calibers some people seem to believe that the .308 can cut someone in half in one shot while you'll have to fire a whole magazine into to someone with a .223 to even get their attention.

At the same time while rifles are more effective than handguns, shot placement is by far more important. Numerous people have survived rifle rounds because the rounds missed vital areas while numerous people have been killed by handgun rounds because they hit something vital.

While you should prepare for the worst not every criminal you may encounter is some unstoppable killing machine which can take round after round and keep going. Although I know it's happened before it's pretty rare for someone unarmed to keep coming out someone armed who's shooting at them and disarm and kill them. Most of the time when someone who a firearm is killed by someone unarmed it's because they were disarmed of the firearm before they were able to use it. I don't know where the idea comes from that some muscle bound PCP user is going to be charging at you and taking numerous rounds and not stopping. I've heard many more times of someone unarmed being shot and killed trying to disarm someone who already has a gun out and ready than I have about someone unarmed charging forward and disarming someone who is has their weapon out and ready. I think it's probably in the same category of people who believe that women shouldn't have guns because they'll just be disarmed by an attacker. Obviously this has no truth to it but people still believe it.

People can tell themselves a million times that they can be shot and keep going but when it comes down to it no one is really sure how they'll react. Before I deployed to Iraq I remember some of the biggest loudest guys would talk about how tough they were but when it came down to they were worse off than the people who were just modest and normal about it.

I think the idea that you need a high capacity pistol like the Springfield XDM (19+1) for self-defense or home defense is in large part influenced by movies, tv, and video games as well. People have been faring just fine with 5 shot revolvers. Yes it doesn't handle every situation but neither does a high capacity 9mm pistol. It'd be like saying everyone needs a pickup truck in case they need to carry a lot of things, at the same time you lose passenger space so everything is a trade off.

I prefer larger calibers like my name implies but I'm not going to write off say a .380 or .32 because some gun writer or tv show shows it as being weak and ineffectiveness. I'm going to do plenty of research on the subject first. The only reason I would be hesitant to get a gun in .32 is because there are now tons of pistols about the same size in .380 ACP. People nowadays are not any more resistant to bullets than they were 60 years ago. There's a report I read a while back about how the 5.56mm round used by the Army was actually less effective because a lot of our enemies were so thin. Instead of the bullet having enough time to yaw it would pass right through the target. If the target had been more muscle bound it would have been more effective.
 
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Drifting........ Sir, this is the Internet. There's more drifting on here than a Friday night Honda Civic race! :D

Regarding the original question, no Hollywood doesn't influence my choice of HD weapons. I think we are more influenced by the local news reports about crime. Just my $3.78 (.02 adjusted for inflation.)
 
Ah now I see.

For HD? The movies don't affect my gun of choice. I have a .45 near my bed because I shoot it well and it stores well in my safe. I have an 870 nearby that the .45 is used to get to if need be.

I'd feel just fine with a 9mm or .38 special though.
 
Absolutley 9mm and 38 special are both good SD rounds. People knock them but they are good rounds. All pistols are underpowered. I think Hollywood/Video Games give a huge misconception about bullet impact. When people get hit in movies there chest explodes in the opposite direction of impact. I think people in SD shooting probably expect to see that when it would probably only move a shirt a bit. I have never been in one but believe this to be the case from reading. Also Hollywood can make people believe that 1 bullet is enough per person every time and they instantly die with a chest shot. That is not the case people can take multiple hits and almost never instantly die (especially from chest shots).
 
Movies have influenced me to try and find one of those handguns that never runs out of ammo ... no luck so far, but I'm still looking ...
 
Its ok. Its not like your judging what the gun does in the movie as reality :eek:. At least I dont. But, if I see a firearm I like the look of in a movie I might check it out. No shame in that. One of my friends wanted a 12G "Shottie" because of some Segal movie (it was launching people as usual) and he wanted the same "power". I tried to explain to him IF that were possible, which its not, it would launch the shooter to the same degree. He would not hear it.
 
There are quite a few guns that I've seen for the first time either in a video game or in a movie/TV show, but like most here, I know not to actually evaluate the guns based on what I see there.
 
Exaclty. You like the look you check it out. Anyone who judges a firearms capability by film/ video games has serious misconceptions lol. I couldn't even begin to list everything:eek:. For one, the make it look like its easy to shoot a pistol excellent at rediculous distances. I love watching newbies faces when they fire a hangun for the first time, when they have that "attitude" of I know it ALL. I didnt hit the paper, theres something wrong with your gun. Then Ill shoot a 2" group :D. Seems ok to me :p.
 
I can't hit the target well with my Desert Eagle yet.. I'm pretty sure that I'm anticipating the recoil and am jerking the trigger. I have some pretty good groupings, but they are all high and left of center.. seeing that I'm a right-handed shooter, that suggests that I'm flinching or jerking the trigger :o

Just going to take some practice :D

It would be adequate if we were just talking about self defense or home defense.. (which is the focus of this thread..) but I want to be a good shot with my gun.. and that is going to take some work.
 
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