Hollow point bullets ? Restricted some states?

C0untZer0 said:
I can't tell you how many times I heard that you're not supposed to use the 50 cal on personnel. I’ve never been able to find anything that says you cannot use heavy machine guns or any particular caliber against personnel.

Do you mean that you've heard that from people in general or from people in the military? Back in my Navy days, I spent countless hours manning a .50 cal ma deuce. That's when the Iranian Navy was using Boghammer speedboats as gunboats. My job was to take out the speedboat. "Taking out" was best accomplished by shooting at the helmsman. Fortunately, the only time we ever encountered one, we were able to chase it away by having one of the helicopters hover about 20 feet above them - it's tough to see anything when there's a hurricane of salt spray in your eyes.

Of course, that was back in the late 80s and early 90s. Maybe we weren't as touchy-feely back then.
 
The author of the article recommended not even taking a gun to New York

I (and many of our NY resident members) will agree. If you'll be driving straight through the state, without stopping; you are technically legal. ...Otherwise, it is illegal to possess a firearm in NY State, without a permit (which can take 6 to 18 months to obtain).
But, I would just generally avoid NY with a firearm. ...Which means I don't go to New York, at all.
 
I heard it from people in the Army, half my company was Ground Surveliance Radar and they had the 50 cals on their M113s.

They always were told "You shouldn't shoot enemy soldiers with these, but if they're in a vehicle and you light up the vehicle and they die - it's no problem, just remember you were shooting at the vehicle not the people in the vehicle. And as a last resort, if they're advancing or something and all you have is your 50 cal - just use it."
 
And why is ball often restricted in hunting? Because it's inhumane. Just a matter of who thinks what is worse.
 
And why is ball often restricted in hunting? Because it's inhumane. Just a matter of who thinks what is worse

Indeed.


....But Deer, Elk, Antelope, Squirrels, Rabbits, etc. usually don't have field hospitals and evac units...
 
But here is the million dollar law suit question. Would an ambulance chaser attorney representing someone you shot in SD sue you for using inhuman ammunition? Or ammo intended to cause unnecessary damage.
 
I carry anti-social rounds in both of my carry guns.

Perhaps they are in need of therapy to properly become socialized.


Stressfire: Coffee through the nose at 7:00 AM is not funny! Now I have to clean my keyboard. :o
 
Spats, the issue isn't really the same. NJ state law, for example, specifically bans the carry of HP ammo in a self-defense handgun. I realize that's an academic point since carry permits are almost impossible to obtain in NJ, but an outright prohibition under state law is quite a different issue from potentially being portrayed as someone using intentionally "evil" ammunition just because you roll your own.
 
I know this topic comes up in various threads - the concern of being sued in the aftermath of a shooting, and how the type of ammo or the name of the ammo or the name of the firearm or any inscriptions on it is going to give lawyers the opportunity to sue you.

I think it has to be balanced. Getting a Punisher deathhead backplate for your Glock is probably a bad idea, inscribing "Kill em all & Let God sort em out" on the slide of your pistol is not prudent. But worrying about getting sued to the extent that you don't put effective asmmunition in your firearm is a mistake IMO.

If I got sued in the aftermath of a shooting and even had to go through bankruptcy - my life would be difficult but the most important thing is I would be alive.

There are things that can make life more difficult than being financially ruined. Being paralyzed as the result of being shot is one of them... so again, I would say, being sued into bankruptcy is a difficult thing - but it's not THE most difficult thing that you could possibly face.
 
AB, perhaps "overlapping issues" would have been better phrasing. They're not identical issues, but the question "What about hollowpoints?" often comes up in the threads on reloads.
 
Don't know about US but in the UK they are only allowed to be used by the police and in the humane destruction of animals.
They are not allowed to be used in pistols by civilians.
 
new york, state or city, does not ban the use of hollow point bullets. the information in the original post is incorrect.
 
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