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HK USP and P99
- Thread starter dr. bullseye
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I traded a USP Tactical, for a P99 and goodies, I have never regretted the trade at all. I do plan on getting a USP 9mm as soon as I can afford it though.I've never fired a P99, but it would have to one hell of a gun for me to want to trade my USP for it.
Don't own a USP, everytime I've looked at one I've bought something else. I do own a Mark23 and a P99. The bad thing about the P99 in .40 is that it was designed to be a 9mm, an excellant gun. You always loose something when you turn a 9mm into a .40. No USP(full or compact) fits my hand as well as the P99. I didn't have to search for preban mags, lots of 16 round mags out there. I can't imagine getting parts for a Walther could be any harder than getting parts for an HK. If your friend does get a Walther in .40 it MUST have 3 German proof marks, R. front of frame, R. rear of slide, and barrel. If the proof mark is not on the slide it was one of 3000 made by s&w and there WILL be problems.
David Berkowitz
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I have owned both in .40 S&W and sold USP-c. The checkering on the grip was very uncomfortable and it just didn't fit my hand correctly. Totally relable.
Accuracy was only lackluster. I blame a combination of fit and shooter.
The P99 is incredibly accurate, fits my hand very well, is comfortable and everything is perfect as long as you don't like to shoot more than 3-4 rounds before clearing a failure or releasing the slide because it locked open.
In .40 S&W, to me the clear winner is the SIG 229. Everything works every time and almost seems to use "smart bullets". Just point it towards the target. OK, maybe not quite that good, but it just doesn't get any better than the 229.
I do have a side question. To all those who find the P99 reliable, are you using the 9mm or .40? I have never heard of a problem of any type in P99 in 9mm. I'm not quite ready to chuck my .40 as I am going to give either the factory or Earl's a chance to make this right. They deserve that much.
Accuracy was only lackluster. I blame a combination of fit and shooter.
The P99 is incredibly accurate, fits my hand very well, is comfortable and everything is perfect as long as you don't like to shoot more than 3-4 rounds before clearing a failure or releasing the slide because it locked open.
In .40 S&W, to me the clear winner is the SIG 229. Everything works every time and almost seems to use "smart bullets". Just point it towards the target. OK, maybe not quite that good, but it just doesn't get any better than the 229.
I do have a side question. To all those who find the P99 reliable, are you using the 9mm or .40? I have never heard of a problem of any type in P99 in 9mm. I'm not quite ready to chuck my .40 as I am going to give either the factory or Earl's a chance to make this right. They deserve that much.
Mychoice
My choice would depend on if you like straight forward setup of the controls (HK USP) or if you like the fit and odd trigger/ decocking setup and different ambi-mag release. Having the decocker on the top of the slide is odd too. I guess if you want a gun to practice unusual fine motor control movements of your digits then you must go with the P99, otherwise try the DAO P99 or HK. I have friends with the same guns you are interested in, and I shoot significantly better with my Steyr M40, I'm used to its sights and it has superior recoil control by design. About the hicap mags for the P99 anyway, I thought only law enforcement could legally buy hicaps for the P99?
My choice would depend on if you like straight forward setup of the controls (HK USP) or if you like the fit and odd trigger/ decocking setup and different ambi-mag release. Having the decocker on the top of the slide is odd too. I guess if you want a gun to practice unusual fine motor control movements of your digits then you must go with the P99, otherwise try the DAO P99 or HK. I have friends with the same guns you are interested in, and I shoot significantly better with my Steyr M40, I'm used to its sights and it has superior recoil control by design. About the hicap mags for the P99 anyway, I thought only law enforcement could legally buy hicaps for the P99?
Walther P99
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I've owned both and right now (although I've only put around 300 rounds through my P99) I'd have to say my USP9 was better overall.
The P99 fits very well in my hand (with the small grip piece) but I've had a few FTEs and FTFs with my P99 (9mm) using 147gr and a horrible time with 115gr (I guess it wasn't broken it yet from what I've heard). I don't think I had any problems with my USP. I sold it several years ago because it was the full-size model and too big for me to carry.
Either way, they're both good guns, but I think the HK has the edge, IMO.
The P99 fits very well in my hand (with the small grip piece) but I've had a few FTEs and FTFs with my P99 (9mm) using 147gr and a horrible time with 115gr (I guess it wasn't broken it yet from what I've heard). I don't think I had any problems with my USP. I sold it several years ago because it was the full-size model and too big for me to carry.
Either way, they're both good guns, but I think the HK has the edge, IMO.