I need to back up and do some “house cleaning”....
1) In my original post, I noted I received the supposed Clinton quote
from a private e-mail. I did not use his name because I did not have his
permission to do so.
As you might guess, I HAVE communicated with this e-mail source:
- asking he confirm or deny the quote he gave me, and
- asking he give me the source of the quote.
He has NOT answered my requests. Therefore,
I apologize to TFL
readers for the apparent misquote. However, please note I said
three times, “IF this quote is true....”
I was trying to show I personally could not confirm the quote but trusted
my source - a mistake, a courtesy I will not render this source again.
2) Freefinkelmann reported (10/15/99 at 12:36PM) the President’s quote
as, “... ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TEST,
I
SIGNED THAT TREATY, IT STILL BINDS US UNLESS I GO, IN EFFECT,
AND ERASE OUR NAME -- unless the President does that and takes our
name off, we are bound by it.” (Stress added by Dennis.)
Thank you, Freefinklemann, for preserving both the integrity of the
thread and the proof of our President’s madness. The point of the thread
definitely is not “moot”!
We must note also that Mal H remembers no such quote during the
conference. Gwinnydapooh, defending truth and justice in spite of his
obvious distaste for the defendant also remains skeptical of any such
Clinton quote.
(Life’s little contradictions sometimes get me down.
)
3) Tombread remembers the quote about Hitler and believes the speaker
was Rudolph Hess - considered by many at the time as the heir apparent
to Hitler. I still suspect it was Paul Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi Party’s
propaganda chief. Inasmuch as the rest of us are too young to
remember we may have to rely upon Art Eatman’s personal experiences
to settle the question.
4) Ivan, I won’t dispute your quote; but I saw re-runs of WWII
speeches and vividly remember my quote verbatim, confirmed at the
time by the moderator of the film.
5) Obviously I am somewhat embarrassed that my rendered quote was
inaccurate. However, subsequent offerings by TFL members indicate the
point of my post remains - our President seems to ignore the Constitution
unless it supports his personal goals at the moment.
6) Frankly, what impresses me so much about this thread is the
consistent integrity of TFL members. The consistent consideration of
each point and each person (even a person who richly deserves our
disrespect) reflects an extremely high level of honesty and fairness - a
maturity and integrity typically missing elsewhere on many internet
bulletin board systems.
Though I trusted a bad source, I’m very proud to be among the type of
people who are members of TFL.
Thank you, folks.
[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited October 17, 1999).]