Hispanic same as White?

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wherein I bowed out of the debate because this, unlike global warming theory, truly is settled science.
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Except in some US schools :)

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Guy B. Meredith said:
Not sure what Hispanics include. I know that on many questionnaires I see white with subgroup of Hispanic or non-Hispanic.
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I haven't seen those groupings on applications for quite some time, at least in the past seven or eight years. I just accepted a job offer, and on the application it says "choose one" and next to "white" a parentheses statment "(not of Hispanic origin)". On the NICS forms I just filled out yesterday, it said to pick one or more races. I have a hard time with these forms because being my mother's families came from Spain, Italy, and France before emigrating to Ecuador makes her "Hispanic" and my father is Italian. Genetically I'm white, but legally I'm "Hispanic".

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Paternal 5th Generation French... Maternal Cherokee. I prefer American -- get rid of the ethnicity.
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I'm in total agreement. I don't know why there have to be racial distinctions anymore or affirmative action (I know why legally, but not logically), why can't we focus on our similarities instead of our differences?
 
I believe that part of the concern is that many such government documents still include Hispanic, Pacific Islander, and other groups as separate catagories. If there is a movement in the government to return to the original three, then it should start everywhere, not piecemeal. Look at the Form 4473 for the BATFE.

As to the reference to color on the Offenders list, I don't believe that there is any intent to single out blacks. After all, whites and asians are also included. The hispanic identification was also there until recently.

Curiously, as the result of Hispanics being classified as white, many of the programs dedicated to them as a minority will be placed in jeopardy, as they are now part of the majority. I'm willing to bet that those programs will continue to classify hispanics as a minority for decades to come. No matter what others reflect.
 
Curiously, as the result of Hispanics being classified as white, many of the programs dedicated to them as a minority will be placed in jeopardy, as they are now part of the majority. I'm willing to bet that those programs will continue to classify hispanics as a minority for decades to come. No matter what others reflect.
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That's why I brought it up and was wondering if there was som PC movement afoot to make it look like Hispanics were not pedophiles.
Minorities are SO careful to make sure they are recognized according to their ethnicity, I was very surprised to see that they were lumped in with whites.
So, according to the gov't, there aren't any Hispanic pedophiles.
I'm suprised La Raza isn't up in arms about this!:rolleyes:
 
I usually check other in the area maked ethnicity or ethnic minority or whatever they list. I then write in Appalacian, since I believe hillbillies are an ethnic minority who don't get enough attention. Except for me, I get too much attention but that's just how I roll.
 
That is a good question as to whether any group might be redefined on PC basis. Wouldn't want to offend anyone by calling them bad names as that is obviously a bigoted racist offense.

BerettaCougar has a point as Cubans, etc. would be "Hispanic" with an African flair.

I was raised in a Latino (Hispanica subethnicity?) neighborhood and they couldn't decide what they were ethnically, mixing it in with political slant as well.

Justme, hillbillies are a whole 'nother study. I know they claim Scottish roots, but...
 
Justme, hillbillies are a whole 'nother study. I know they claim Scottish roots, but...
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Swaying a bit here, but, being of Scottish ancestry, that intrigues me.
Who exactly are the "hillbillies"?
Or is this one for Wikipedia?
 
Wow....

Wow
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Wow WHAT?
Please, don't tell me that offended you!:rolleyes:
Is this better:som PC movement afoot to make it look like Hispanics could not be pedophiles like any other group.
Jeez!

While perusing sites about out of wedlock births, every one that I looked at used 'Hispanic" as a catagory with "White" a seperate entity.
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:[A]s the Hispanic community emerges as the nation's largest minority, it's worth noting that 42.5 percent of Hispanic births in 2001 were to unmarried women. That's 16 percentage points higher than the black percentage when Mr. Moynihan sounded his alarm. We thought Mr. Lieberman and Miss Brazile should know.
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http://www.americanvalues.org/html/out-of-wedlock-births.html
And:
ESTIMATES OF THE PERCENT OF BIRTHS OCCURRING OUT-OF-WEDLOCK

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Race and 1994 CPS 1/ 1993 NCHS 2/
Hispanic origin Percent CI 3/ Percent
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Total 27.7 1.7 31.0

Not Hispanic 4/ 27.3 1.9 29.3 5/
Native 28.5 1.9 30.3
Foreign-born 9.8 4.9 18.1

Hispanic 29.6 5.8 40.0 5/
Native 40.8 9.5 41.6
Foreign-born 21.4 6.8 38.9

Asian and Pacific
Islander 6/ 15.7 8.6 15.7
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http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/fertility/ofw-child.txt

And this:
Ethnicity, separate from race, is based on the ethnicity of the mother. Prior to 1991, the reporting of the infant's ethnicity was based on the ethnicity of the mother and father. Due to an expanded specificity in the reporting of ethnicity in 1993, a substantial increase in the number of infants with unknown ethnicity was observed. Ethnicity distinguishes individuals of Spanish origin, where the Hispanic category includes Hispanic Whites, Hispanic Blacks, Hispanics of Other Races and Hispanics-race not stated.
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http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/vital_statistics/2000/technote.htm

So, are they white or not?
I wouldn't want to be labeled "white" if I wasn't.
Or anything else for that matter.
 
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So why is it on the forms it says "pick one"?

I fyou look deep enough into most people's roots, you will find more than just one "category". So why are we limited to just one on all those stupid forms?

My father-in-law used to describe himself as "French-Irish-Italian-Apache-Jew" Not sure what box he checked.

While I do play the game they expect on gun forms (just so they don't get a wild hair and delay me), on other forms I generally check the box marked "other", and in the blank for "race" I write "human". I believe this is correct, but there are some folks who might disagree.:D
 
I think you should find something more interesting and creative than "human". We don't get that many chances in life to be a smartass on official documents. If you can't write "appalacian" find some equally interesting and subversive thing to embrace.
 
I think you should find something more interesting and creative than "human". We don't get that many chances in life to be a smartass on official documents
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That's fine so long as the folks you're submitting it too can't have any real impact on your life.
I would'nt get cute on a job application....assuming you really want the job that is.
 
Im from spanish decent, Spain, Uruguay and Argentina. Im not a pedophile Das Boot, so i guess i missed that memo :rolleyes:

But I also have blonde hair and blue eyes, so I guess im part of your "master race" as well. Man it must suck when you can't just label someone like me.;)
 
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