Hillary and Guns

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by Tom Fitton:

What kind of President will Hillary Clinton make? I realize this is a disturbing thought, but we must consider it as Senator Clinton remains the odds-on favorite to win the Democratic nomination for President in 2008. The way I figure it, with the Clintons, past is prologue.

That’s why Judicial Watch’s investigations team has been inspecting the newly released Clinton Presidential Library records. (We don’t endorse or oppose candidates, but it is part of our educational and corruption-fighting mission to see the Clintons held accountable.)

Recently, our investigations team uncovered documents that provide some interesting, and troubling, details about the Clintons’ plan to destroy the gun industry, a la “Big Tobacco.” Here’s just a sample of what we discovered.

A memorandum from former Clinton Advisor Sidney Blumenthal to Bruce Reed, Director of the White House Domestic Policy Council, dated November 9, 1998, which reads: "I've enclosed an article and a press release about the new effort to file class action suits against gun manufacturers. I think this is a very promising idea. Let's talk about it soon." The press release, from the Office of the Mayor of New Orleans, was in draft form, suggesting the Mayor coordinated the strategy with the Clinton White House.
The "promising idea" identified by Blumenthal involved filing massive product liability and negligence lawsuits against major handgun makers, "the opening salvo in a campaign against the gun industry by an alliance of anti-tobacco attorneys and local governments," wrote the Los Angeles Times. According to one of the lawyers involved in the lawsuits: "We are going to do to [the gun industry] what we did to tobacco. It's going to be a very large war."
Our investigators also uncovered a March 6, 2000 letter from New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer with a handwritten note at the top from Bill Clinton to then-White House Deputy Counsel Bruce Lindsey, which reads: "Bruce, See me re: this…has some good ideas for future." Among the "good ideas" -- denying gun manufacturers the right to sell guns to the military and law enforcement unless they sign an anti-gun "code of conduct" that would cripple the industry.
Hillary Clinton and the anti-gun rights crowd used this extortive litigation strategy to strong-arm gun manufacturer Smith and Wesson into adopting some of their policies. President Bush put an end to the federal abuse of the gun industry in 2000. Will a “President Hillary” revert back to government extortion of the gun industry?
 
As the election gets closer - we'll see photo ops of her and that creep Giuliani hunting and chopping wood in Central Park.

IMHO, there are only a handful of our elected representatives who REALLY support the RKBA - you could count them on one hand. They'd all vote to take away all our rights if groups like the NRA/GOA and JPFO weren't around to stir up grass root letter and phone campaigns.
 
the question that has to be answered is not wether she is anti-gun(yes she is) or wether she will be the democratic nominee for president(more than likely) but is she electable by the american public? I think she has too much baggage against her (not bill) to be elected or at least I hope so.
 
But it really isn't how electable SHE is. It's how unelectable her oposition may be. Guiliani? McVain? Who have the Repubs got with legitimate conservative, let alone constitutionalist, credentials? Nobody that I am currently aware of who has any shot at the nomination. I am not going out to vote for any of them and I suspect many other conservatives won't either.

As such, the issue isn't so much the presidency as holding the House and Senate. Keep a reasonably conservative CONgress and the lefty infesting the WH after 2008 is only slightly dangerous. Lose the House and Senate and we are screwed, whether it's Hillary leading their gun-grabbing, PA expanding herd or Rudy being led BY that same herd.
 
I think Hillary will be the next vice president of the US. I don't think she is electable as a presidential candidate. It's scary actually to think of her as THE president and the first lady will be Bill. Certainly will show who wears the pants in that marriage. She and the Democrats will take every opportunity to further restrict gun ownership in the US. Even as VP, Lord help us as she will not be your quiet supportative of the president VP unless the President does what she wants him to do.
 
She's not going near the gun issue.
She's not stupid. She knows what's going on at the State level and see's it's not a great idea to oppose gun ownership these days.
Don't get me wrong, she's a gun grabber, but one with brains.

AFS
 
I bet she does go after guns. Her Dem majority Congress is going to send her a bill to close the "gun show loophole" (as they call it) in order to combat terrorism. And she will sign it into law.
She'll look at reinstating the AWB, banning .50 cals, etc.
This is what we have to look forward to; the assault against the Constitution will continue...just from a different direction.
 
I'm not very crazy about Rudy or McCain but I think either one is preferable to Hillary. I looks like 2008 will be another lesser of the 2 evils unless somebody steps up fro the republicans
 
The disgusting thing is that we have to choose someone who is just "preferable" as representatives, presidents, intelligence and all of it.

Gross.:barf:
 
Don't get me wrong, she's a gun grabber, but one with brains.


LOL! I guess you didn't see that you'd penned an obvious oxymoron. :p


She's a gun grabber, and like gun grabbers, her brain doesn't function properly.
She is, however, crafty enough to know to keep her mouth shut about the gun issue because of how bad being honest about her position would burn her.


-azurefly
 
But folks,Hillary likes guns. Remember,Vince Foster died under mysterious circumstances.The revolver used in the "suicide" hadn't had ammo made for it in many decades.The autopsy revealed that from the wound entry point that the shot couldn't have come from a direction of somone commiting suicide.Billa and Hillary's goons were at the crime scene hours before the poice did show up,and then they interfered with the investigation as well as taking articles from the crime scene.She had to like one gun if ol Vince got shot.Remember all of Billary's cohorts who in the space of a few months had accidents.If I had friends die at the rate a week Billy Bob and Hillary did I would be a prime suspect and run out of friends completely.
 
She's not going near the gun issue.
She's not stupid. She knows what's going on at the State level and see's it's not a great idea to oppose gun ownership these days.
Are you kidding me? She'll go after guns like hyenas go after meat.God help America is Hillary is elected President.If shes on the ticket,Ill be spending every $$$ I can buying ammo and magazines.
 
TeAnau,
You mean you aren't doing that now? :eek:
Here's some food for thought: If the Dems take over both houses (which I see as possible but not likely) Bush will have a ban on his desk that he has already said he'll sign.
Also, consider who she's liable to run against. Which candidate isn't a gun-grabber?
 
I find this funny...

I looks like 2008 will be another lesser of the 2 evils unless somebody steps up fro the republicans

2 Democrats force you to vote lesser of two evils, where a strong Republican is deemed your savior of your Constitution? I highly doubt that, both parties are quite negligible in what the Constitution is supposed to stand for, Democrats want to get rid of First and Second Amendment rights, while the Republicans work on the Fourth, Fifth, and Ninth Amendments. Don't believe me? Look at laws and issues passed and pushed by both parties, until the whole idea of "vote for the lesser of two evils" is broken by real votes for real representiatives everyone will just be slowly giving their rights away all because they want their party to win.


Epyon
 
I hope Hillary is the Democratic candidate.

She would bring out every right winger, every conservative, and every centrist to the polls to vote AGAINST her and her Socialist agenda.
 
JkkKimberfan -

She isn't a Socialist and I strongly doubt since she was educated in complete structure her entire life that she even knows what she truly belongs too period.

She is just a pawn and nothing more.

With this in mind I do not want her to be the figurehead of the United States and as a Centrist who values some types of Socialist ways I would absolutley vote against her and her hard-left friends who aren't living in reality.

It is a joke that a Political soccer-mom is considered as a possible figurehead to the greatest country on Earth!
 
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