High capacity mags for Walther P99

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In Gun List I have seen ads for high capacity mags for the P99. Are these available for both 9mm and 40 SW, or just 9mm.

Did they manufacture these mags from generic pre Sept 1994 components or are these adaptations of mags originally manufactured for other guns?
 
The story I heard is that Walther was smart enough to get magazines into the country before the ban. They say "WaltherP99" on the baseplate. Earl has mags and parts, www.carlwalther.com
As far as I know the prebans are all 9mm.
 
I think these "p99" mags are actually P-88 mags. I hear that despite the differences between the 2 pistols, the P99 can use P88 mags. Pretty smart actually, much like the HS2000/XD. If I were to make a new 9mm pistol, you can bet your ass it would take a common mag, like berreta or BHP mags. I know there is more money in exclusive mags, but if you want a real piece of the HUGE american civilian market, it had better take something we can get (or be built around 10 round mags, or take .45 :) LAter.
 
Jason, what hi-caps can the HS2000 and XD use? I have been wanting one, and the 10 round limit has been the only thing keeping me from getting one.
I just wish Steyr had been smart enough to use common hi-caps in the M series. 5906 and Beretta 92 mags are so incredibly cheap now, I often wonder why gun makers dont build their new full size pistols to use them. Has a there been a succesfull (with civilians) totaly new full size since the ban..one that is designed to hold signifigantly more than 10 rounds but with NO hi-caps available?.
 
If you want genuine P99 Hicaps, either:

Buy from Earl's
www.waltherusa.net

Or...
go to a local gun show and look for guys selling mags. This way you'll be able to touch before you buy.

I found one at a Tampa gun show for $125. I believe Earl has the same prices.. His supply is getting low, though.
 
P99 9mm mags are 16 round, but there are some that are MARKED 15 round from Turkey. P88 mags are 15 round and will actually latch into the P99, but stick out about 1/2 inch. I haven't tested reliability. P88 Compact mags are 14 round and will latch into the P99, but stick out about 1/4 inch. I haven't tested reliability.

You can usually find the best prices on P99 mags on Gunbroker.com. If you see one up for auction, send the seller an offer. You may be pleasantly surprised that he'll usually take it.
Worked for me :D

Regards,
James
 
"P88 mags are 15 round and will actually latch into the P99, but stick out about 1/2 inch."

Hmmm. The only way I had been able to fully insert the P88 (fullsize) mag into the P99 was to have the slide locked back or removed. Otherwise the mag sat too high and the feed lips and top rear obstructed the slide. I have heard, but never seen, the P88Compact mags fit without any problems.

With the number of errors I've posted before I can't absolutely be sure about the P88 mag obstruction but will look into it this weekend to confirm. (Guns are at my parent's house.)
 
I inserted the P88 full size mag in the P99 with the slide closed. Just loaded up 2 snap-caps into the P88 mag and cycled them through the P99. No problems what so ever.

Regards,
James
 
High Capacity? The gun was designed to hold 16 rounds, a magaine with a 16 round capacity is a full capacity magaine, those 10 round abominations are reduced capacity.

Let's not use their language, we fight on our terms.
 
First, according to Earl Sheehan of Earl's Repair Service, Inc., a recognized authority on the Walther P99 pistol, a quote in writing to me from him, "There is however NO legal P99 .40S&W mags (12 shot), only LE, as this caliber was introduced in 1999. This is not even close to 9/13/1994".

Both Walther USA and Germany has advised me of the same thing on the .40S&W P99.

Earl also has said as has Walther USA and Germany, "The P88 (15 shot) mag is not recommended for the P99 because of liability reasons. It is only to be used in the P88".

Now, the magazine thing for the P99 pistol has been hashed over, debated, discussed and down right run it's course. The horse is dead,let's not beat it any longer. Search the archives here for a load of info.

The pre-ban 9mmx19 magazines available for the P99 pistol are from the original prototype "P99" guns. The were made in 1994 and were suppose to be called the "HLP" - hammer less pistol.

Earl says he is the only importer to have a valid import permit from Washington for these mags. When they are gone, he says they are gone. End of story except for used ones at premium prices.

I have only stated the facts as I have been given so, please don't argue with me over the facts, do your own research and form your own conclusions. I have no reason to doubt Earl or Walther Germany. ;)

For those not familiar with the P99 pistol, you can find some added info and pics on my web site below with a link to some night sight info for the P99.
 
It may be true no .40 P99 mags were LEGALLY imported, but there ARE unmarked (as to the LE only restriction) 12 round .40 P99 mags, as I have 4, marked "Walther," ".40," and "MEC-GAR." They are, unmistakeably, MEC-GAR products, or copies so well made as to be indestiguishable.

This appears the same situation as the .45 HK USP mags..

Ironically, I bought some of those from KY Imports as well as the P99 .40s.

I also have 30rd AR-15 mags marked w/ "04/99" that don't have LE and Military restrictions on them.

I believe that the lack of restrictive language makes these magazines a gray area, which means the burden of proof is on the BATF.
 
'01 GSR,

Thanks for the info. If you have one or have access to a digital camera, I would like a couple of pics of the non-marked Mec-Gar mags for my web site if you don't mind. :D

I believe that the lack of restrictive language makes these magazines a gray area, which means the burden of proof is on the BATF.
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No, the proof of burden will be on the owner as always with BATF! :mad:

If Walther were to stick to their word as to no pre-ban .40S&W mags being available or imported, they, they mags, would be a legal problem for the owner.

Interesting enough, before all the questions about pre-ban this and that for the P99 pistol, Earl had pre-ban 12 round .40S&W P99 magazines on his web site for $125.00 per copy. When all the dust was raised, that line disappeared from his site with only the 9mmx19 pre-bans remaining. :confused:
 
One of these days, I'll get a digital camera, but I'm not really sentimental, so I barely even use my minolta X-700.

At least I could post gun pics for my C&R guns, should I ever find any that I really want to get rid of.



I think the law is, technically, on the side of the gun owner regarding the language, but, as we all know, the de facto reality is you'll spend thousands in court costs, lawyers, to obtain your due.


KY Imports is the place to check for the P99 .40 mags, but I'm not sure they're worth $125 (I paid under a hundred each).

I still don't own the P99, but did check them for fit in one. It's one of those guns I eventually want to own, but haven't gotten around to yet.
 
I don't like the hi-cap ban. But why buy a hi-cap that only holds 16 rds for $110 or $125 when 10 rd mags cost $35. For $105 you can get 3-10rds thats 30 rds vrs 16rds. In the long run isn't it smarter to carry more 10 rds mags? I mean you carry 1-16 rd mag in the pistol & 1-16 rd mag for back up thats 32 rds. 1-10 rd mag in the pistol & 2-10 rd mags for back up thats 30 rds. You only loose 2 rds. At $110 are hi-caps worth it?
 
For me and my two 9mmx19 P99's it was a matter of having the guns equipped as they were originally intended, with 16 round magazines.

I got mine before they disappear but don't use them on a regular basis on the range.

I'm hoping that some day they will add to the value of the guns. ;)
 
I'm with JMC on this.

It is about having the gun as intended, not as after government mandated emasculation. :mad:

I've also noticed several FTFs on my Glocks when using PC mags, and none after the first 200 break-in rounds using full caps.
 
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